Zoom Lens Options for ARRI 2C

[Christian Flemm]

Hi all,

Does anyone know what my zoom lens options are for ARRI Standard mount? As of yet, I've been unable to source a comprehensive list of lens options (prime or otherwise) in this mount, and often find it difficult to determine which lenses are fitted for 35mm, when the majority of lenses on the second-hand market seem to be for 16mm.

That said, I already have a set of Zeiss primes, so am more concerned with finding a zoom at the moment.

Best,

Christian

[Simon Wyss]

S. O. M. Berthiot Pan-Cinor 38,5–154 mm, f/3.8;

Pan-Cinor 38,5–154 mm, f/2.4;

Pan-Cinor 60–240 mm, f/5.9;

Schneider Tele-Variogon 80‒240 mm, f/4;

Cooke Varotal 20–100 mm, T 3.1;

Cooke Super Cine Varotal 25–250 mm;

Cooke Cinetal 25–250 mm Mark III, T 3.7;

Angénieux 25‒250 mm, f/3.2;

Angénieux Optimo 25‒250 mm, f/3.2 T 3.5;

Angénieux 40‒400 mm, f/4.0;

Angénieux 28‒70 mm, f/2.6;

Angénieux Optimo 30‒80 mm, f/2.5 T 2.8;

Angénieux Optimo 45‒120 mm, f/2.6 T 2.8;

Angénieux Optimo 19,5‒94 mm, f/;

Century 150‒600 mm, T 6.7.

There are more.

 

 

[Fabian Schreyer]

Are not all IICs also equipped with one bayonet mount? That might give you a few more modern options.

[Dom Jaeger]

On 9/11/2024 at 7:41 AM, Fabian Schreyer said:

Are not all IICs also equipped with one bayonet mount? That might give you a few more modern options.

No, the original 2C came with three Standard mounts and was released before the Bayonet mount. The first 35mm Bayonet mount camera was the 35BL released in 1972, 8 years after the 2C. Around this time Arri began marketing the 2C/B with 2 Standard mounts and one steel Bayonet mount, specifically for heavy zooms, because flange depth accuracy is much more crucial for zooms. Older 2Cs could be retro-fitted with a 2C/B turret. Here's a 2C/B brochure:

https://www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/01045/01045.pdf

Looking at old Arri price lists the only 35mm zooms available from Arri in Standard mount in those days were these ones:

Angenieux 25-250 T3.9

Angenieux 35-140 T3.9

Angenieux 20-100 T3.0

See:

https://www.pacificrimcamera.com/rl/01384/01384.pdf

You can also find a few older 35mm zooms by Som Berthiot in Standard mount, though they are rarer and not as good. I think also the Zoomar 36-82 came in Arri Standard.

Generally from this era nothing that goes wider than 20mm is a 35mm zoom, it will be for 16mm.

Because Standard mount really wasn't a good option for zooms, most zooms made after this were sold primarily in Bayonet mount, then PL mount. Some of the older zooms by Angenieux and Cooke used a universal mount that could then be fitted with a variety of other mounts, so you might find something like a Cooke 20-100 or 25-250 that could theoretically be fitted with a Standard mount, but they really are too heavy. Apart from maybe the Angenieux 35-140 most 35mm zooms need to be supported (especially if they are in Standard mount), which is tricky on a 2C. There was a special zoom support base made for them, but they are hard to find. 

[Dom Jaeger]

On 9/11/2024 at 2:47 AM, Simon Wyss said:

Angénieux Optimo 25‒250 mm, f/3.2 T 3.5;

Angénieux 40‒400 mm, f/4.0;

Angénieux 28‒70 mm, f/2.6;

Angénieux Optimo 30‒80 mm, f/2.5 T 2.8;

Angénieux Optimo 45‒120 mm, f/2.6 T 2.8;

Angénieux Optimo 19,5‒94 mm, f/;

Century 150‒600 mm, T 6.7.

There are more.

No way are Angenieux Optimos (released post circa 2000) available in Arri Standard mount, nor some others here. Where did you get this list?

[Simon Wyss]

It’s my list. You are right, Optimo don’t belong here although I think that some of them can be fitted with an ARRI bayonet rear. The Voigtländer Zoomar 36‒82 I have never seen with an ARRI mount. Why should an optics manufacturer exclude ARRIFLEX and CINEFLEX?