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I saw a promising ACL 2 kit on eBay. The seller bought it at action here in NZ.  I'm trying to help him get it basically tested.

USD6K buy now.

Eclair ACL Camera Body and Accessories - Picture 2 of 16

eBay link..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/257001653238?_skw=eclair+acl&itmmeta=01JZBRQT3GBGZZMMJ75G0EA9FY&hash=item3bd67e03f6:g:cFIAAeSwn6doZzBH&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1cd8G86BOp38L9y2kOLnA9JEzaLY%2FNyPJ56daSF0wr8kfbm5YqylzGiqQQ7MfSCaxXDNckbFe3iWhCkQckqW3e9%2FsIphp9BKEvjTSlAevHKPOQDQJuCEcGHNXCvsbR49A08CtA448z2NS8FdiB91vJnrY5Fr8VXG8A5vJ02HEp9KFnsGkegnSEdCrWS7F5ZAboqZdnaH0UwhVPQbje6ffJwaNKS4I2EAxBVICqpMsl%2FDknJUqPFmoel0wM9LkSVOoU%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-yh3_j6ZQ

You can contact the seller directly... Will Wallace<fiveonefive(at)gmail.com>

Comment from Gregg: If I help examine and test the camera (video call) I may get to see if it is standard 16/ S16. If not S16 then the 15-150 Ang is a bit wasted. Including lenses in a sale can often confuse the value issue. The 15-150 has a couple of listings under USD700, which seems undervalued to me.  If the camera kit is pulled off eBay then he may sell the lenses separately.

Update 10/07/25)...I deleted the earlier update

The seller is not signed up to the forum, so I will help by trying to itemise in an orderly way...

Kit contents...
ACL II body, standard 16,  #2843
Kinoptic orientable VF, #.......
Mag 1 #.....
Nag 2 #.....
Battery (BAKEL)...
Charger (CIBRE..?)...
Power cable spiral...
Power cable short...
Crystal speed selector box...

TS/Arri-S lens port adapter
TS/.....something I'm not sure of lens port adapter. (Nikon F...?)
Ang. 15-150 zoom, Arr-S mount, #1432895...
Zeiss distagon 8mm, f2, Arri-S mount, #5272243....
Rubber sunshade with bad memory bend...

Pentax (sort of digital) spot meter)...
A tray with some gel filter holders and glass filters.....

If I missed something I'll fix later.....

Notes:
The gate looks quite good, no sign of high mileage. It's not clean, he will upload a better photo. I also asked for a sharp macro pic of the mirror
The lens mounts aren't shown but assumed as Arri-S (pics of the mounted zoom). The other camera port adapter in the pics I can't tell what it is. Any ideas? A better pic should be coming. Is it Nikon F...?

The video of the camera running (empty), with the camera about 30cm from the body, a few reflective elements in the environment...sounds reasonable. I'm assuming that it hasn't had CLA for a while. Noise will go down after that, even if just lubrication. Bear in mind that it's not a controlled test.

The Ang 15-150 zooms are undervalued on Ebay at the moment. They cover S16 and can be quite sharp (I'm told). 

The magazine I saw ((didn't see detail of both)) is a late model type with a separate centre pressure plate. It's like an Arri SR mag, the overall pressure plate leaves a thin gap and only the little pressure plate over the aperture is applying pressure to the film. Good mag(s) for S16.

Those little Pentax spot meters are great. I have one. 

New Price strategy if selling outside of eBay
Price: NZD6000  (USD3614)
Shipping: NZD500 (USD301) to NZD800 (USD482)..includes insurance.
Money transfer by Wise.....

If it just needs lubrication I think that is a really good deal...

The seller (he's not on the forum) now indicates that he would sell the lenses and camera separately if that suited someone. The zoom is a S16 zoom, and maybe it should go to a S16 camera. Also, the Zeiss 8mm lenses are expensive at the moment, so maybe splitting up is better strategy. Obviously the camera price will come down a good increment. I a day he may have a firm plan and a price.

 

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The seller of the ACL II above (he's not on the forum) now indicates that he would sell the lenses and camera separately if that suited someone. The zoom is a S16 zoom, and maybe it should go to a S16 camera. Also, the Zeiss 8mm lenses are expensive at the moment, so maybe splitting up is better strategy. Obviously the camera price will come down a good increment. I a day he may have a firm plan and a price.

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On 7/5/2025 at 1:31 PM, Gregg MacPherson said:
 

I saw a promising ACL 2 kit on eBay. The seller bought it at action here in NZ.  I'm trying to help him get it basically tested.

USD6K buy now........

 

Stephen Jackson pointed out on Cinemarketplace that the zoom looks like the standard 16 variant. I think he is noticing the red line on the focus barrel that you can see in one of the eBay pics. I can't find info that gives a way of discerning the difference. I have pics here of a 10x15 B that covered S16 easily and it seems to look the same as the one for sale above. The focus gear in my pic confuses the issue. The "S16" 15-150 at DU ALL doesn't have the "15x10 B" marking, it has "15-150mm", so adding more confusion...

I will get the seller to look at the image circle, there is a big difference between the 16mm and the 1" image circle that the "S16" version will have.

Meanwhile, there is always the light reading at Cinematechnic. He has some useful info on the S16 version
https://cinematechnic.com/resources/optics_for_super-16/
scroll down to...Older zoom lenses with full S16 coverage...

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New eBay price USD4500....The contact info is there, so a lower price is possible outside eBay....

He's starting to get offers on eBay that may tip him over the edge.

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