arri 2c and sound

[Jizhong Zhang]

I have a arri 2c I want use it to make my next movie but it`s so noise can I make it quietly?does it need this? I have it but It seem not fit 2c because the motor of 2c is in the button~and It`s a heavy metal case It`s not a good idear to use it .is anyone has good idear?

Edited March 4, 2007 by nonpop

[David Mullen ASC]

I have a arri 2c

 

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[Dan Salzmann]

This is a very good camera but not made for sound work.

Can you shoot with long lenses further from the actors?

Get a sound barney or try leather jackets.

[Mark Dunn]

You can't use the blimp with the handgrip motor, apparently.

[chuck colburn]

You can't use the blimp with the handgrip motor, apparently.

 

Yeah you need to mount the camera on a flat base. If you already have the camera and the blimp you can find flat bases on ebay. Some times they come with a crystal sync motor if you don't already have one.

[Hal Smith]

I have a arri 2c I want use it to make my next movie but it`s so noise can I make it quietly?does it need this? I have it but It seem not fit 2c because the motor of 2c is in the button~and It`s a heavy metal case It`s not a good idear to use it .is anyone has good idear?

Look in the 2C forum for a thread titled "Arri 120 Blimp". There's some good information on Arri 2C blimps there.

[Jizhong Zhang]

Look in the 2C forum for a thread titled "Arri 120 Blimp". There's some good information on Arri 2C blimps there.

 

 

if Don`t use Blimp is there any way? can we reconfigure the camera?

[GeorgeSelinsky]

I made a feature film with an Arri IIc. There is no way to get it quiet unless you get a very heavy blimp for it. Forget it, you can hear it in the next room and even on the next floor!

 

The only way I did it was to re-dub all the audio, dialog, moves, footsteps, ambience, you name it. It was an interesting but extremely time consuming process.

 

Check this out: http://www.geocities.com/gselinsky/nonsync.html

[James Steven Beverly]

You could always try removing the camera noise with Cool Edit, but from what I understand, (I've never tried it on a 2c) the Arri sound is in a bad part of the range and you may have some trouble. Buy a blimp and a flatbase with a crystal sync motor and be done with it if you're going to make this your sync camera. There really is no alternitive for you. You already own the camera so it's still a lot cheaper than buying a BL-! or BL-2. B)

[Tim Carroll]

I made a feature film with an Arri IIc. There is no way to get it quiet unless you get a very heavy blimp for it. Forget it, you can hear it in the next room and even on the next floor!

 

The only way I did it was to re-dub all the audio, dialog, moves, footsteps, ambience, you name it. It was an interesting but extremely time consuming process.

 

Check this out: http://www.geocities.com/gselinsky/nonsync.html

 

George,

 

That is a great article, thanks for sharing your experience. Anyplace where we can see the finished film?

 

-Tim

[Hal Smith]

Reference is made in the links to a dead dubbing booth. The best inexpensive sound adsorbing material I've found is the fiberglass insulated "duct board" that air conditioning people use to fabricate ducts and plenums. It's designed to be sound absorbant but only costs around $40 for a 5'X10' sheet. It's made from a dense yellow fiberglass product, about one inch thick, and foil backed. It glues easily to walls and/or flats. There's a more expensive grade where the fiberglass has been dyed black with a material that helps to slow down any shedding (which isn't really a problem with the yellow version). I've soundproofed a bunch of studios over the years with these products - saving about 90% on soundproofing over buying Sonex, etc. If you go this route, line every square inch of the walls with it, try to cover the ceiling (if you have a dropped ceiling, cut the duct board into ceiling tile sized pieces), and use a plush carpet on a thick pad on the floor. For esthestics you can stretch burlap over the surface to create a more finished look. DON'T glue the burlap to the board's surface, that interferes with the board's sound adsorbing quality.

 

Also, turn the A/C off when recording or use the duct for it's intended purpose and build a custom sound baffle duct out of the board - that's its design purpose.

 

Baffle Design

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(ignore the dashes between the "I"'s, the Forum formatting won't let you insert spaces.

 

The "I"'s are squares of duct board constructed

out of two pieces glued back to back and attached to the side

walls with right angle brackets. A ten foot long section with

baffles every foot will suck up a lot of A/C noise - but if the A/C system has a lot of low frequency "rumble" in it you'll just have to turn it off regardless.