Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted July 14, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2009 Ok... I just don't get it.... http://www.filmtools.com/iphone-zgrip-pro-...to-z-zg-ip.html Who is seriously shooting video on the iPhone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chance Shirley Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 When I saw the video feature on the iPhone 3Gs, I wondered how long it'd be before something like this showed out. I think the basic rule is, if you can shoot video with it, someone will sell some kind of "grip" system for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted July 14, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2009 I think the basic rule is, if you can shoot video with it, someone will sell some kind of "grip" system for it. Second that. And advertise it with a couple of (usually blond) chicks who like they've never held a camera before! Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Garner Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 The price is even more ridiculous. Nearly 300 bones for a handle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted July 14, 2009 Author Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2009 You can buy an iPhone for that much and do a 2 camera setup, get a used stand and a knucle. Voila, insta-tripod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Earl Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) The promotional video for it is pretty funny... http://vimeo.com/5384225 This seems to be a subculture of filmmaking which I can only really describe as the 'pimp-my-camera' crowd. Edited July 14, 2009 by Will Earl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted July 14, 2009 Author Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2009 I just cannot live without the lo-mode shots I can now get with my iPhone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Metzger Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Apparently the chipset in the Iphone 3GS is "capable" of recording 720p.... Prepare for the attack of the N00bz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted July 14, 2009 Author Premium Member Share Posted July 14, 2009 We need some good Wagner music to accompany the behind the scenes footage of these iPhone films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted July 15, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 15, 2009 You can just buy a Cardellini for $50 and have almost exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Garner Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I'll bet Michael Mann is playing with himself watching this promo vid. I mean, ok.. whatever... maybe you have iMovie and now you have an "hd" camera (iPhone) for "serious" moviemaking as they say in the promo. This could end up being a toy, but it's such a creative necessity. I love that this is the PRO model.. and there's a CONSUMER one on the way. Talk about marketing. Blech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted July 15, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 15, 2009 I see my days of not taking zacuto seriously anymore are coming to a middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Paul Bruening Posted July 15, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 15, 2009 How about an iPhone on a Worral geared head on a Fearless Panoram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Neary Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I hate to rain on their parade, but you can adjust the knob like so on that expensive little gizmo to tilt up and down, or... YOU COULD SLIGHTLY BEND YOUR WRIST!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hyslop Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I hate to rain on their parade, but you can adjust the knob like so on that expensive little gizmo to tilt up and down, or... YOU COULD SLIGHTLY BEND YOUR WRIST!!! As my kids say to me - stop making sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) I actually could see cell phone footage being used to enhance the look of portions of a film and to lend realism to certain scenes. There was a guy mentioned here on the forum a while back, relatively known film maker who was planning on shooting a feature on cell phones and there was this: http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive...l-phone-camera/ http://www.filmjunk.com/2006/03/15/sms-sug...-phone-cameras/ and even this: http://www.asiaone.com/Digital/News/Story/...1207-40143.html I suppose IF I wanted cell phone footage for a feature, I would welcome something like this so the shots would be more controlled and steady, a DEFINITE PLUS when projecting such footage on the big screen. The point is not that the grip costs more than the camera phone, the point is that the grip helps make the authentic footage from the cell phone camera viable for use in a feature film that cost a LOT of money to make regardless of the camera used. Edited July 15, 2009 by James Steven Beverly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 The promotional video for it is pretty funny... http://vimeo.com/5384225 The best part of that video is early on when they say "This is the iPhone ZGrip", and the Zacuto rep made sure to state that this was the "PRO" version, ha ha Good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted July 15, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 15, 2009 I actually could see cell phone footage being used to enhance the look of portions of a film and to lend realism to certain scenes. True, but this doesn't really mesh with what you said below... I suppose IF I wanted cell phone footage for a feature, I would welcome something like this so the shots would be more controlled and steady, a DEFINITE PLUS when projecting such footage on the big screen. So, you want realism, but not realistic? I'll ignore for the time being that this particular "stabilizer", or whatever they're calling it, won't make anything any smoother. The fact is, if the average person shot video on there cell phone it would look like amateur video. If you want to actually stabilize a camera, you may as well do it right. I can mount an iphone to my steadicam the same way I can mount a Arricam LT. I don't really care what kind of camera I use, but it won't look like cell phone footage shot by an average person, it will look like cell phone video shot by a professional steadicam operator. Anyway, it's just some stupid thing they built to sell to stupid people. Not you James, just in general. Like I said, a $50 Cardellini is exactly the same thing, except it probably has a firmer and more secure grip on the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted July 15, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 15, 2009 The best part of that video is early on when they say "This is the iPhone ZGrip", and the Zacuto rep made sure to state that this was the "PRO" version, ha ha Good stuff The "PRO" version offers "angulation", whatever that means. That video is hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted July 15, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted July 15, 2009 The promotional video for it is pretty funny... http://vimeo.com/5384225 Funny thing is I hadn't even seen the video before I posted my blond girl comment. And for dough you dish out for the grip and iphone you can get a cheap hd camera easily. Hell, you can even get one for the price of the grip alone! :blink: Strange days, these! :unsure: Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Lane Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 I definitely know of a PRO filmmaker that shot a feature on a few Flip HD cameras. Talking about blowing up to 35mm. Things have gone/are going too far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Rodgar Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 The days of old school film makers are seemingly over. While we tear apart the noob videographer phenom, some of these guys are seriously making inroads in the industry and its fringes, just look at the Reality TV craze of a few years back, moslty powered by tiny HVX100s. Now even RED seems too old, clunky and, dare I say, outdated for its own good. "Why shoot a feature on RED when I can shoot it on my iPhone, (5DmkII, GH1, etc, etc)?" It is a wild new world of video making out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Steven Beverly Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 True, but this doesn't really mesh with what you said below... So, you want realism, but not realistic? I'll ignore for the time being that this particular "stabilizer", or whatever they're calling it, won't make anything any smoother. The fact is, if the average person shot video on there cell phone it would look like amateur video. If you want to actually stabilize a camera, you may as well do it right. I can mount an iphone to my steadicam the same way I can mount a Arricam LT. I don't really care what kind of camera I use, but it won't look like cell phone footage shot by an average person, it will look like cell phone video shot by a professional steadicam operator. Anyway, it's just some stupid thing they built to sell to stupid people. Not you James, just in general. Like I said, a $50 Cardellini is exactly the same thing, except it probably has a firmer and more secure grip on the phone. Well, the problem being the question of TOTAL reality vs practicality, very small movement with such a tiny camera translates to sweeping movement on a large screen. No doubt, any footage shot by a professional steadicam operator such as yourself will look much better than your Joe Average guy shooting his family at the beach. I think something like this or your Cardellini would be somewhere between the two, not quite as nauseatingly shaky as amateur footage and not so slick as the perfectly steady work you do so it could pass as amateur footage without having the audience throwing up in the aisles. Did you look at the promotional video? there are SOME features I really like, like the light mount, i can tell you from experience with my Motorola Evoke QA4 that it doesn't like low light situations at all. I do totally agree the price is absurd but they did mention there would be a consumer version that will cost a lot less soon, but of course it will no doubt, cost far more than what it's worth. Zacuto's stuff is high, I guess it's their attempt to make it seem "professional" by making the costs astronomical, the old " if it cost THIS much, it's gotta be worth it" business philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Teulon Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) I like the fact that zacuto's definition between Pro and Consumer is adjustability. So neat!!! :lol: LOL!!! Edited July 16, 2009 by Serge Teulon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Fernando Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Then there's this when you want to change things up... http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/25/video-i...ount-we-giggle/ I want to know what the follow focus is for - switching from your Jonas Bros MP3 to the latest Lady Ga-Ga track???!!! Gotta love the LED Lite Panel - like fill light is going to be your biggest problem!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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