Michael Schroers Posted January 10, 2012 Author Share Posted January 10, 2012 To reply to an earlier question. Kowas and canons were cheaper than the super baltars and in the mid 80s the kowas and canons were mostly cheaper to rent than the super baltars. I think the kowas had housing problems at first too. It's hard to generalize as non of them were totally uniform. I used super baltars on super 16 the other day and the result was amazing. With modern film they don't look overly vintage but you sure can get close to that 3 strip Technicolor look using them with the Fuji vivid stocks. Most films shot with a Mitchell in the 60s were super baltars because the cookes hit the mirror in that camera. As for when they were stopped being made I would say late 60s but new stock was still being sold in the 80s. Hello ! Thanks for your answer. Do you know what the price was of the baltars, kowas and canons (in USD or €) ? Micha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino vian Posted September 10, 2012 Share Posted September 10, 2012 Hi, no idea of the prices but the Japanese lenses were undercutting the American and European lenses by quite a bit. The Super Baltars may have been Bausch and Lomb glass or certain people have told me it was actually Zeiss glass. Bausch and Lomb were using Zeiss glass in still photography lenses. I don't know for sure but a small chance the American glass was actually German. All the BNCR lenses were the cheap option by the 70s and early 80s. A good source of prices is old American Cinematographers actually. I will also say a very rare Italian made lens for the BNCR in the late 50s is also on pare with the Baltars. Can not forget the brilliant Cooke Speed Panchros as well. They seemed to have lasted a lot longer than the Baltar and Kowas. Unknown to me the IMDB for the Godfather part II lists both Super Baltars and Kowa Cine Prominars. Maybe the Kowa's filled in the focal length gaps like 40mm etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino vian Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) super baltars on super 16 Fuji Vivid stocks used on all studio shots on this artist film (Cooke Variotel zoom on exteriors). Edited September 24, 2012 by dino vian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Anthony Vale Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Do you know what the price was of the baltars, kowas and canons (in USD or €) ? These prices are from 1975 Mitchell Camerea price lists: B&L SUPER BALTAR LENSES IN BNCR MOUNTS: 20mm T3.0 $1,659 25mm T2.3 1,805 35mm T3.5 1,445 50mm T2.3 1,330 75mm T2.3 835 100mm T2.3 980 KOWA CINE PROMINAR LENSES IN BNCR MOUNTS: 15mm T3.5 1,120 20mm T2.6 710 25mm T2.3 630 32mm T2.3 535 50mm T2.3 480 75mm T2.3 500 100mm T2.6 605 MITCHELL HI-SREED LENSES BNCR MOUNT: 28mm T1.8 35mm T1.3 55mm T1.1 85MM T1.7 Set of four lense 7,975 From an October 1, 1983 Cinema Products price list: Canon High Speed Aspheric lenses: 18mm T1.6 5500 24mm T1.4 3850 35mm T1.4 3850 55mm T1.4 2860 85mm T1.4 2860 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Schroers Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 (edited) Does anyone know some more examples for film in which kowa cine prominar lenses were used ? It's very interesting . . . Edited November 26, 2012 by Michael Schroers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorme Jean-Marie Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 here is one i shot with the K35 in alexa K35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Schroers Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 Hello ! There are old Baltar lenses (not Super Baltar, for non reflex Mitchell) with colored dots, for example purple or yellow dots on it an there are lenses without any dots. Someone told me something about that, but I'm not sure, if it's right. What's the difference between this lenses ? Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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