andrew ward Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Did a show with a US DP in australia who asked for appleboxes by size using a US system. Called boxes LA (Los Angeles) and other city names, so youd bring the right box in the right configuration. Is that a standard thing? If so what are the names? I like the system and wanna use it. He was a bit of a dick so it could just be a bullshit student thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member George Ebersole Posted December 18, 2012 Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2012 I've only ever heard of apple boxes, half apples, and pancakes. I've never heard them called anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 There's a wikipedia page about this tagged for lack of references. I wonder if the OP's Richard wrote that as well? They are measured in inches, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted December 18, 2012 Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2012 The only exceptions are those rather handy nesting ones, where the half, quarter, and eighth boxes (where the 1/8 boxes are really just two sheets of ply stuck together) end up being a little smaller than the usual type. They do pack a lot better, though; I rather like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Kerber Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 In order of height (lowest to highest): Texas, California, New York. That's what I've heard/used on occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew ward Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 Thanks kids! In Australia we have nesting sets. Im sure he said "LA" as well. And a tall one on its side had a different name, so youd know which box to bring and which orientation. Which is more useful than "get a large applebox". How would i find the wiki? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew ward Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 From Wkipedia. Geuss i should have googled before asking. I thought city names described sizes and orientation, but sounds like its just orientation. Disapointing. ""Often when a Grip is placing an Apple Box others are lifting something heavy to put on top of it, thus arose the need for terms describing what position the Apple Box should be placed in (i.e. which side of the Apple Box should be placed face-down). It is rare that these terms are used for anything other than the "Full Apple" size. LA: Positioned so the Apple Box is resting on its largest side. 8" tall for a full apple. New York: Positioned so the Apple Box is tallest, 20" high. Texas/Chicago: Positioned so the Apple Box is on its longest narrow side, 12" high."" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew ward Posted December 19, 2012 Author Share Posted December 19, 2012 I still dig the system and im gonna use it. Ill just name the sizes as well. Maybe ill name them after movie stars? Fatty Arbuckle to Woody Allen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad Howard Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I'm fond of "first floor", "second floor" and "top floor" or "third floor" when referring to apple box side placement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted December 23, 2012 Premium Member Share Posted December 23, 2012 This will confuse Brits; the first floor here is the ground floor, and everything else is shifted up one. This is, of course, because Americans wanted to make all their buildings seem one storey higher. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohan Sandhu Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I was working on a rather large stop motion feature in the UK and got gently mocked for calling apple boxes apple boxes, instead they where all pancakes no matter the size. Is that a UK thing that I'm unaware of, or just the studio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted December 24, 2012 Premium Member Share Posted December 24, 2012 Not as far as I know - it's an apple box. One thing I notice about the film industry (and frankly anything else with a lingo of its own) is that lots of people will tell you how to do or say something, and tell you that everyone does it that way, and they'll all tell you something subtly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Fowler Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 My normal grip just brings me what I need. I don't ever have to specify. But when I working with a new guy I use 1st, 2nd, top. And if it's a student, I just ask him to go get Tad. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tad Howard Posted December 27, 2012 Share Posted December 27, 2012 @ Bryan, I apologize for making you send for me that time. I try to be attentive. ;-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjay Sami Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 Full, Half, Quarter & Pancake = 8", 4", 2" & 1" I usually call the 3 orientations - 'Standing', 'Sitting' and 'Sleeping' - you need no knowledge of Geography to get it right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew ward Posted January 2, 2013 Author Share Posted January 2, 2013 I like that one too Sanjay! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lowry Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I have heard apple box & pancake when that all there was.Which now a half apple was a pancake back then.Sometimes they would say get me a man maker wich was a apple box.Sometimes the younger ones would laugh @ the old timer if he had a senior moment & would bring a half apple as a pancake.I would say to the young grip before U were a thought in your fathers mind,that's what a pancake was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard davidson Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I do remember being taught '1st, 2nd, and 3rd position'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 There's a wikipedia page about this tagged for lack of references. I wonder if the OP's Richard wrote that as well? They are measured in inches, of course. Apple box slang, just more B.S. Anybody can post on Wiki and therfore anything and everything on it is suspect. Terms: full; half; quarter; pancake are clear and sufficient. Slang terms often exixts just to make newbies, PA's in the department feel stupid. The biggest apple box, the "full", should be New York, because it's the Big Apple. There, I've just invented new slag for use on on the East coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Hearn Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Apples boxes are Full , Half , 1/4 1/8(pancake) theses are the most common. FULL APPLE BOX 12"X8"X20" 1/2 APPLE BOX 12"X4"X20" 1/4 APPLE BOX 12"X2"X20" 1/8 APPLE BOX 12"X1"X20" However they do make other versions . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew ward Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Johnston Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The cities refer to the orientation of the box, not the size(usually used with full apples though). In Canada we call them 1's, 2's and 3's (lay the box flat, put it on its side, or stand it on end) The corresponding cities are LA, Las Vegas and New York. So if a DP asks for a full apple New York, you know to stand it up tallways. Also heard Chicago being used intead of Las Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Earl Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 There are also MINI apple boxes in full, 1/2, 1/4. They're a little more than half the size of regular ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 That last shot is hilarious. Man-maker indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baji Angarita Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 (edited) Catching on to the colorful language I discovered when I started working on film sets was very rewarding as I was working my way up the totem pole. I'm definitely stealing New York, LA, and Texas. Btw does anybody else hope Fatty Arbuckle to Woody Allen catches on? Who would be the half apple though? Edited May 30, 2014 by Baji Angarita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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