Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 17, 2013 Premium Member Share Posted December 17, 2013 I ordered a few rolls of 16mm (UN54) and ORWO says this film can be processed as either negative or reversal. I was wondering if anyone has had this film processed as negative and, if so, what kind of results they yielded. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Arend Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Hi, Orwo UN54 is very good when it is processed as negative stock. That´s the way I use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 17, 2013 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 17, 2013 Great! Thanks a lot. Looking forward to testing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Jaquish Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Hi Bill -- all the daylight exterior scenes were shot on ORWO UN54 (35mm) in this short: https://vimeo.com/69522462 (and processed as a negative, by the way). I've also started to use it for still film with good results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 18, 2013 Author Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks, John. Very nice images, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Wyss Posted December 18, 2013 Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) You can reverse-process almost every black-and-white film, exception are the so-called direct reversal stocks like Eastman 7361 (discontinued). Downright reversal films must be reverse-processed or you won’t see a thing due to the black subbing they have. Only to repeat what comes up here and then time and again, negative stocks like Orwo UN 54 have a grey base that acts as anti-halo protection. The lightest parts of reversal positive images therefore are hidden behind the grey veil. In other words: white clouds, for example, aren’t white but grey. Edited December 18, 2013 by Simon Wyss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry S Moses Posted July 9, 2016 Share Posted July 9, 2016 I am selling custom loaded super 8 cartridges loaded with ORWO UN54 & Fomapan R100. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORWO-UN54-Super-8mm-Film-Cartridge-/272301972678?hash=item3f66765cc6:g:EvkAAOSwkl5XfSBl http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fomapan-R100-Super-8mm-Film-Cartridge-/272301338375?hash=item3f666caf07:g:u8kAAOSwvg9XfROu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Wilson Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Can this stock be processed at someplace like, say, Spectra Film and Video in North Hollywood? I'd like to use some of the stocks not offered in the US, but I don't know how compatible they are with the Kodak chemistry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hyde Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Spectra does a great job on Foma and ORWO. Regular Kodak Tri-X looks amazing and very clean. They have their own chemical formulation which combines a bit of new and old ideas for excellent results on all fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted September 24, 2016 Site Sponsor Share Posted September 24, 2016 The nice thing about Orwo is that it runs in either the Reversal or B&W negative baths just like Kodak where Foma has a softer emulsion and needs a change of settings on the film processor to keep the emulsion on the base. B&W reversal problems are almost always to do with the bleach and we run a mix of Kodak and Clayton chemistry similarly to what Spectra does, we helped them out with their bleach at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted September 24, 2016 Author Premium Member Share Posted September 24, 2016 Anyone have any recent results of Orwo 16mm that they can share?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Grant Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Thank you for this post. I have often wondered about the results of Orwo UN54 processed as a negative. Spectra recently processed 2 loads of Orwo UN54 as positive and I was very pleased with the results. I have seen too many examples of poor processing from other vendors and will stick with these guys. Just a question on what might be the advantage of telecine process on the negative versus the reversal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Aapo Lettinen Posted December 19, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted December 19, 2016 I always process ORWO as negative, have not even tried reversal processing with it because all my films go to telecine/scanning and negative is so much easier to work with. One of the benefits of lower contrast negative is that technical grade transfer is much faster to do and therefore cheaper. the film is also more compatible with low end + mid range systems which have difficulties of capturing the full dynamic range of the reversal. if you are working with, for example, a Spirit, it may save lots of time in transfer to use negative instead of reversal. you also have more options to manipulate the grain texture and contrast with special processing + varying developers if you are using negative, the reversal process is more restrictive in this regard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Carter Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I just processed it and posted a sample. https://www.facebook.com/groups/8mmand16mmfilmmakersgroup/?ref=bookmarks A different clip is on https://www.facebook.com/groups/1833878160190581/?ref=bookmarks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Carter Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 (edited) It was difficult to find out how to do it. But it turned out to be easy and inexpensive. I plan on printing it. Edited April 8, 2017 by Michael Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Carter Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 It prints nicely. The print stock is DP3 and is less gray than the UN54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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