Greg Kubik Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Given the recent cold front that has forced most of the U.S.A. into winter, I've had a few shoots outdoors and am reminded that I never did find clothes that I thought were the best for cam ops. I have generic base layers for skiing but as an operator in the sports world you are not moving any where near the amount as a winter athlete since we frequently have to hold a shot steady for an extended amount of time and don't have the ability to move around and warm up. Also, I am looking for a good pair of tight, not bulky gloves that can keep your hands warm but still allow you to operate a camera on your shoulder. Any advice on base layers, mid layers, and gloves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'm sure everyone will have their own suggestions, but for me, the most important thing in cold weather (other than a warm hat) is a pair of waterproof, insulated boots. Obviously, you need more than that, but having warm feet is essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted November 14, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 14, 2014 Though i'm in LA now I recall quite a few cold winters. I find Under Armor thermals to be fantastic. For hands; I didn't use gloves while operating-- but instead had a nice jacket with plenty of hand warmers in the pockets and between shots I'll throw it on, and stick hands in there. I always, honestly, found my feet colder than my hands-- and used of course foot warmers. Layers are important; but when you're operating you generally want mobility. For me this was generally good thermal clothing and a good fleece jacket-- perhaps with a waterproofed layer for wet work. Often though I'd wind up being down to my thermal on some shots when I had to move-- of course I'd never "delayer" longer than necessary. Also, drinking lots of warm beverages. I used to have a nice thermos which we could loop around the tripod with good hot-chocolate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Very seasonally mild here at the moment but you could try mittens (fingerless gloves) over well-fitting cotton gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted November 14, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 14, 2014 I'll second Stuart's footwear recommendation. I walk everywhere so shoes are important, but they are anyway - they're more or less the only item of clothing that I spend any serious money on. I have two identical Berghaus fleeces which I bought a very long time ago and which remain presentable and can be worn between shirt and coat for extra warmth. Otherwise, just layers, but I find no reason to invest in specialist layered clothing systems. A T-shirt, denim or checked shirt, fleece and coat are adequate for all but the most severe conditions. In extremis, snowboarding outerwear can be pulled on over the top, but the UK rarely gets that cold. Otherwise, the sort of gloves worn by British military aircrew are pretty good. They're pretty much just white leather gloves, but very soft and simultaneously quite warming. I have never used the green nomex type worn by a lot of other air forces but they always come off as a bit noticeable and gauche to me, and I have the fashion sense of a pebble. The white ones are more or less the only gloves I've ever come across that don't overly impact ability to manipulate small switches and the like. That said I am going to be in Toronto at the end of next March, and I'm not quite sure what to expect. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael LaVoie Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 One trick when you're out in the cold on concrete or asphalt surfaces, it helps to stand on a pancake or 1/4 apple box. The ground is sometimes like a block of ice so staying off that can keep your feet warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Clark Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I should preface that I am based out of North East Ohio (cleveland - pittsburgh area) and I personally am very sensitive to the cold. I don't work well when I'm cold and here, during the winter, it can go from 30 degrees one day to 5 degrees the next with windchills bringing that down another 10 degrees. I'm not saying this is the worst condition you could be in but it is annoying. http://www.xdcam-user.com/northern-lights-expeditions-to-norway/arctic-clothing-guide/ I've found the information in the article above to be immensely helpful. It addresses layers needed and the proper fabrics to use and the importance of STAYING DRY! Which was a saving grace to someone like myself who is sensitive to the cold and would always wear cotton layers without knowing any better. http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-winter-boots/ Having cold feet really effects my performance on set. Normally I would have to bundle up 2 pairs of socks and a pair of cheaper boots and still be freezing by the end of the day. These boots have allowed me to stay warm with even just 1 pair of cotton socks in some cases (though I whole heartedly recommend Merino fabric socks). I'm not boot expert but I did enjoy seeing how thorough the article went into their testing. Also I've heard a great recommendation for when you have to pull your own focus consisting of a wool-based glove liner inside of thick water proof gloves and when you're not rolling, ditch those and tuck your hands into wool mittens that are buried in your coat pocket with a couple hand warmers in each. I've found hand warmers in your main gloves a bit cumbersome when you have to pull your own focus or make adjustments. I think the biggest thing too is to always be moving to take your mind off it. On a recent shoot the myself, the gaffer and the 1st ac could all be seen doing jumping jax while waiting on 1st team when we were too far from staging to leave set. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dino Giammattei Posted November 30, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted November 30, 2014 Although they aren't cheap, I have been purchasing wool blend socks from a local outdoor store. Fortunately they seem to last forever as opposed to the cotton tube socks I usually wear. I often double up and wear the cotton socks inside and the wool ones over. The new wool blends are quite comfortable worn against the skin though. They also have the added advantage of remaining warm when moisture builds up. I have like six pair that I have had for many years and they still look like new. Growing up in New England, wool clothing was readily available, but now that I reside in Virginia I have found it almost impossible to find wool shirts in the local department stores. It's a shame because wool is still one of the warmest materials to use for winter clothing. It also outlasts cotton by a long shot. I have 20 year old wool flannels that are still in use. As for manmade materials, I used to do a lot of video work for cold weather divers and they swore by the Patagonia brand thermals. Again, these are not cheap but last forever and keep you warm without the bulk that cotton long johns have. As others have said, good shoes/boots are probably the most important. If your feet get cold you will be miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timHealy Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 In a word layers. Layers to keep warm and layers that can be peeled off and you can still work when you go from outside work to inside work and/or vice versa in the same day. best Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Jaran Engelsen Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Layers as mentioned. But I find it hard to find durable and comfortable shell jackets that fit base layers and a down fleece without being to inflexible.. I really like Arcteryx' stuff. Very expensive. But nice. What are the set trends when it comes to winter clothing? I remember when overshoes was the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Jeffrey Cotter Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 WoolRich makes a so called tactical parka that is an awesome component for a self made system. It has a multitude of pockets in side and out , both Velcro and zipper closures, internal elastic restraints in pockets for stuff you don't wish to drop and it is windproof water proof. It is light enough to wear at 50 with out sweating. I then use a variation of a full fleece hoodie, a fleece vest, a sweat shirt, a m65. Field jacket, a puff parka, a puff vest under neath it to adapt for the given situation. I just love the flexibility it provides me, and I am very sensitive to heat so I need cooling all the time even in the snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Miguel King Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Technical base layers, merino wool in particular, are tight fitting, light and very warm. On top it's layers of fleece, goretex trousers and jacket, a light down jacket and a truly thick one. Ideally there should be a camera truck close by so quickly switching clothes is easy.I've also started collecting different types of shoes, from gore tex trainers all the way to sorel boots. The sorel boots are lifesavers when it's an entire day outdoors in the cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjay Sami Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 I found the Canada Goose Expedition jacket incredibly warm and I used these shoes from Baffin. http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40001305.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry DeGala Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 http://www.walls.com/workwear/workwear-coveralls/Walls-BlizzardPrufreg-Insulated-Coverall-YV309.jsp Comfortable for hours in otherwise bone-chilling weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg MacPherson Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 ....skiing..... Hey Greg, from Texas...snowy as? It would help if we all knew what kind of weather conditions you had to work in. All I could read was....probably standing on a snowy skifield, and the sun is shining. Knowing what the worst possible conditions might be on the day, that will determine what gear you should have with you. Without doing that you have to accept risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakesh Malik Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 When I'm doing outdoor shoots on cold days, I go to my backpacking and mountaineering kits... so: The best bet for staying warm AND dry is wool and synthetics. For outer layers I prefer not to use GoreTex or Event these days, because they tend to get too hot. I prefer to wear an extra layer of wool or similar as an insulating layer and an outer layer of softshell or Pertex or similar fabric. I've had great results using one of the Eddie Bauer/First Ascent BCS200 rain jackets, as well as a crazy light Outdoor Research jacket made of a Pertex fabric. I always take at least one of those on mountaineering trips. I've been using a pair of Windstopper fleece gloves that enable me to keep my hands reasonably warm and still be able to operate a camera (it worked with my 4x5). For extra warmth when I'm no operating a camera I have GoreTex overmitts. Operating a camera with those on doesn't work well, but they're easy to slip on and off, so they've worked well for me on winter camping trips when I'm out in the cold and wanting to set up a shot with a 4x5. Pop the overmitts off, get the shot, slip the overmitts back on. Layers are very important though; if you start to sweat, you need to cool off before you soak your base layers. When trekking one of the first things we tend to do before even setting camp is to get out of the wet base layers and put on dry layers + puffies (down, usually) to stay warm, plus good down puffies pack down to incredibly small bundles and weigh next to nothing, so they're easy to drag along pretty much everywhere. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah Hellum Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 These are gloves that can be fingerless when operating but turn into mittens when you want to warm up. http://www.amazon.com/Urban-Boundaries-Ragwool-Convertible-Fingerless/dp/B000XSGMUQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Half of the reviews weren't very favorable. For the same price: http://www.carhartt.com/products/carhartt-men-gloves/TS-Flip-It-Glove-A557# Made by a company that makes only workwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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