Premium Member Tristan Noelle Posted October 19, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2016 I've got a pretty run and gun narrative night exterior shoot coming up and while I'll probably be using some battery equipped Lightpanel Astras, I wanted to field some ideas on hard, single point source battery options. Something at about the output of a 200w HMI or greater. Ideally an option I can source from a rental house, not have to track down car batteries and inverters on my own time (unless it comes to that). Does such a thing exist? Thanks in advance, Tristan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Sun guns, if you can find a rental house that still has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Lawrence Conley III Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Arri Pocket Par 200 Arri Pocket Par W/ Bug Light Adaptors W/ X Small Chimera 130.00 30 Volt DC Ballast for 200 Pocket Par 25.00 Wooden Nickel Lighting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted October 19, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2016 There are also some onboard LED lights that are not a panel array but have a round front that projects a harder light -- something like the Dedolight Mini-LED's for example. http://www.dedolight.com/dedolight/default.php?la=0&pg=00000400110505&id=DL-DLED9-D§ion=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted October 19, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2016 Something at the power level of a 200W HMI would have to be at least a 200W LED, which is fairly rare. The Dedo LEDs are 90W and there's an open-faced light by Aputure, the COB-120, which rates at just over 100W. Neither of these would compete for output with a reasonable 200W HMI. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted October 20, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2016 Since this is night exterior work, I assume that more smaller and energy-effienct sources would be more useful than something large that wouldn't last long on batteries, but if the idea is to actually light a larger area with "moonlight" I wouldn't even consider using battery-powered lights. So there's a chance that a 200w HMI is a bit overkill unless one is using it for a large bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tristan Noelle Posted October 20, 2016 Author Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2016 Thanks for the information David, Phil and everyone else. A little more info: I'll be shooting A7s at 3200iso, supplementing available/location light, but leaving it quite dark. It'll be outside several different suburban houses with practical Halloween lights and decorations. I'd like to be able to put a moonlight branch pattern on a house, people, etc. leaving it a stop or so under, or add a hard kick to actors. But I won't be back lighting a whole yard or street. I'm interested in batteries mostly because we'll be moving a lot and I'll only have one swing grip helping me. Also we end up in an alley without easy access to power. It does occur to me that if I'm setting up a C-stand with a branch and placing it in front of a light, running a stinger for said light is probably not what slows us down. Tristan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 What's the budget? One night shoot? Keep it simple, make it easier for yourself. Rent a small generator, a Honda 2000 or a 7000. You can keep it on the truck. Not having a plan and competent crew that can think for themselves will slow you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted October 20, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2016 There's also Zylight's F8 series. There's a 100W option, or the 200W option which is fan cooled. The behaviour is as a traditional fresnel and the 200W version would compete with a similarly-specified HMI while being marginally battery-powerable. They are somewhat expensive but the build quality appears to reflect this. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael DeStefano Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Our Filmgear Power LED 40, 80, 160, 240 and 360 all can be powered by battery. Tungsten, daylight and Bi-Color. Also check our 150w and 250w LED fresnels. You can stop by to check them out if you like. We're in Sun Valley. dadcopowerandlights.com Edited October 21, 2016 by Michael DeStefano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Allman Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Tristan, The 250W Hive Wasp will produce a hard source and is color tunable from 4800K to 15000K, I believe. Their newest ballast seems to take DC input. You'd have to call them to get more details. I haven't used the DC input before. The Fiilex Q500 and Q1000 may also get you where you want to go and both fixtures definitely take battery input. Fiilex had the Q1000 powered off a battery at NAB. You'll get color tune-ability as well. If you're mixing with household tungstens you may find that you want to turn the color temperature down a bit from 5600K, otherwise you'll get 80's blue moonlight. Stuart Allman --------------------------- illuma.BlogSpot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted October 22, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted October 22, 2016 And that's bad?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tristan Noelle Posted November 5, 2016 Author Premium Member Share Posted November 5, 2016 As an addendum to this topic, here's the short I shot that this post was in reference to. Locations proved agreeable so we had AC power everywhere, didn't need battery powered hard lights. It was a 2 night shoot, only myself as camera and lighting. Sony A7s + Shogun w/ a Canon 28-70 f/2.8 in a Fig Rig and some Rokinon Cine DS primes for the last scene. The director and I agreed that because of budget and time limitations, we would embrace an intentionally cheap aesthetic featuring handheld wide angles, garish colors, noise etc. (think early Peter Jackson or Evil Dead). It was very quick and dirty but we had fun. And about that 80s blue moonlight... https://youtu.be/d20HzXocBWo Tristan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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