Rob Mentov Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Hi all,A small group of us recently shot a short film on kodak 5219, 500T and I wanted to get some opinions on the results. The raw scans feel almost like they resemble digital noise as opposed to film grain, especially when exported.We shot at f2.8 and pushed the stock +1 stop , which seemed like an ample amount of light according to the meter. I'm thinking because the stocks used were recans and perhaps a couple years old, that the film might have needed to be rated at a lower ASA than 500T.If it were a matter of the film not getting enough light, would pushing another stop solve this or would I be required add more light?Sample link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted September 4, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted September 4, 2018 So two things... You gotta be careful with recan's. Generally if you're going to push, you should be using fresh stock < 6 month old. Also, you need to process nearly immediately. Gotta get it in the soup within 24hrs after it being shot to get the least amount of noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rizzo Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 also what scanner was it done on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karim D. Ghantous Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) I notice that the noise in between the sprocket holes is the same as the noise in the image. Perhaps the scan itself is the problem, as John implied. Edit: What's with the green light leaks on either side of the image? Edited September 5, 2018 by Karim D. Ghantous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Wyss Posted September 5, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted September 5, 2018 Can we stop saying noise with images? Grainy or so but not noisy. How can one confuse eyes and ears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Mentov Posted September 5, 2018 Author Share Posted September 5, 2018 I notice that the noise in between the sprocket holes is the same as the noise in the image. Perhaps the scan itself is the problem, as John implied. Edit: What's with the green light leaks on either side of the image? The light leaks were from a source of light creeping in. The scan was done at Mel's in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) The little film clip looks OK. But what is it like on the big screen? The scans look terrible. For one they are too light. Print little darker. The comment on the sprockets is right on. I think it is noise, not grain. But am no expert. Edited September 5, 2018 by Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 Here is an example of pushing a digital image 2 to 5 stops https://danielteolijr.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/an-example-of-push-processing-a-digital-image/ You can see what type of noise to expect. Although a still photo can be contrast graded and improved upon more so than bulk cine' post processing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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