Jason Thompson Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) Roughly a year ago, my brother and I reverse-engineered wiring for his Bolex 12V motors and cameras. I'm posting the details here as a reference We reverse-engineered replica PowerGrip batteries with 10 x 4/5A 2100mAh Ni-MH cells and 2" outside diameter NuTone 3808 central vacuum pipe. In my opinion, it's better to plug a cable into a 12V Li-On battery pack (like JuiceBox) or a battery belt. ??♂️ MST (6-pin) Requires a 6-pin female Tuchel connector (Amphenol T 3401 XXX). Pins 4/5 are ground. Pins 1/2 are +12V. I recommend putting a switch in-line to control on/off. For the in-line switch to work, you will need to bypass the front MST button by putting a jumper between the two remote pins on the back of the motor. MST (7-pin) Requires a 7-pin female Tuchel connector (Amphenol T 3476 XXX). Pin 2 is ground. Pin 5 is +12V. I recommend putting a switch in-line to control on/off. For the in-line switch to work, you will need to bypass the front MST button by putting a jumper between the remote two pins on the back of the motor. In theory, you can bypass the front MST switch without using a jumper by using pin 3 for ground; however, the MST circuitry was not designed for this path to carry that kind of current. It will eventually burn a trace off the circuit board inside, causing smoke to pour from the motor. We know this from experience (and fixed the traces on two MSTs with wire). PowerGrip Requires a 7-pin male Tuchel connector (Amphenol T 3475 XXX). Pin 2 is ground. Pin 3 is +12V. If you are connecting the other end of your cable to a 4-pin XLR 12V power source, please ensure there is no battery inside the PowerGrip when you connect! If I recall correctly, you can connect the other end of your cable to Ni-Cd/Ni-MH battery charger output to charge a battery in your PowerGrip. ESM (3-pin) Requires a 3-pin female Tuchel connector (Amphenol T 3261 XXX). Pin 1 is ground. Pin 3 is +12V. I recommend putting a switch in-line to control on/off; otherwise, the ESM always runs when connected to power by this method. The 3-pin circuitry bypasses the ESM front on/off button. ESM/EBM (7-pin) Requires a 7-pin male Tuchel connector (Amphenol T 3475 XXX). Pin 4 is ground. Pin 3 is +12V. I recommend putting a switch in-line to control on/off; otherwise, the EBM will always run when connected to power. You can control the ESM with the front on/off button although it may be more convenient to use an in-line switch instead. My brother made a quick demo of his EBM using a 4-pin XLR power cable with in-line switch on Vimeo. I hope that helps! For now, I sell these cables (except for the ESM 3-pin) for those not interested in making them. Edited August 20, 2021 by Jason Thompson formatting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Thompson Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 FYI, the pin numbers are with respect to the soldering side and not the typical user side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Seiboth Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Hello, Has anyone ever worked with the EM motor? Wasn't planning on using sound so this seemed like a good alternative but I can not locate the connectors. The 4 pin power connector has the 4 pins in a square format, while all the Amphenol connectors I've investigated have the 4 pins in a more trapezoidal shape (I didn't do well in geometry; the 2 upper pins are closer together than the 2 lower ones...) - Here is a pic of the EM connector - No manufacturer data on the plug. The bakelite piece is ~ 11.6mm diameter - Any suggestions?? I have one cable complete that came with the motor (no battery), but need a panel type connector for a DIY battery pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Thompson Posted December 8, 2023 Author Share Posted December 8, 2023 Robert Ditto tells me the original EM had the same 4-pin Amphenol-Tuchel connector as the EL and MM. Based on that, I'd say your EM has been modified. See the attached photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Seiboth Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Thank you Jason, that explains it. I wondered myself if that might be the case since the 3 pin remote connector looks almost like a different manufacturer. This EM motor came with a cable with the same mystery connector on both ends so I could probably replace one cable end with a 4 pin XLR and be done. Now I need to find the pin out so I don't blow anything up... Appreciate you taking the time to look into this! All the best, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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