Vincent Paul Tan Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Greetings everyone! I can't seem to find information online on how to identify Mk. I from Mk. II Standard speed lenses. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I am in the process of purchasing a set of standard speeds:16,24, 50(superspeed), and 85 and would just like to confirm if they are Mk. II. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Joel W Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, Vincent Paul Tan said: Greetings everyone! I can't seem to find information online on how to identify Mk. I from Mk. II Standard speed lenses. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I am in the process of purchasing a set of standard speeds:16,24, 50(superspeed), and 85 and would just like to confirm if they are Mk. II. Thanks everyone! Mk1 are tiny and Arri standard mount with 49mm or 47mm fronts. Mk2 look like "normal" cinema lenses: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.squarespace-cdn.com%2Fcontent%2Fv1%2F59cc443df43b551e79fcd3bb%2F1507153265250-87DUZTSSN8E140BUTIA3%2Farri_zeiss_standard_speed_six_lens_set_2.png%3Fformat%3D2500w&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heindlcinema.com%2Frental%2Fzeiss-standard-speeds&tbnid=yeVbcOiGZ8Qc1M&vet=12ahUKEwj49dDPz7X4AhXaO80KHXe2BZgQMygCegUIARChAw..i&docid=8y2ecgEpsLPdxM&w=600&h=600&q=standard speeds zeiss&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwj49dDPz7X4AhXaO80KHXe2BZgQMygCegUIARChAw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Paul Tan Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 Thank you! is the set on the link MK. II? Here is a photo of the set I'm buying https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1y1T8afHhQEFnJJpPzpg9WqhJRyzTG8cG They look a bit like the ones on the link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Joel W Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) Those sure look like Mk2 to me. Check to make the mechanics are good, I hear they can wear down with such heavy use (because they have been such popular lenses!). Fwiw I own a set of Mk1 standard speeds and they look NOTHING like that. Edited June 18, 2022 by M Joel W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Paul Tan Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, M Joel W said: Those sure look like Mk2 to me. Check to make the mechanics are good, I hear they can wear down with such heavy use (because they have been such popular lenses!). Fwiw I own a set of Mk1 standard speeds and they look NOTHING like that. Great to hear. Thank you for the answer! The 16mm focus barrell is a bit loose so gotta get that checked but the set is quite cheap and includes a 50mm super speed. Apart from the incredible image quality, the size of these are the greatest selling point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 I am also still trying to distinguish these Zeiss Standard speed lenses with ARRI standard mount. A lot of them can be found with and without the red T* mark. To my understanding this just says something about improved coating, so the T*-lenses should be the more modern ones? But then again, they are still called MkI lenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Uli Meyer Posted September 12, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fabian Schreyer said: I am also still trying to distinguish these Zeiss Standard speed lenses with ARRI standard mount. A lot of them can be found with and without the red T* mark. To my understanding this just says something about improved coating, so the T*-lenses should be the more modern ones? But then again, they are still called MkI lenses? Here you can find invaluable info: http://cinematechnic.com/optics/arri_zeiss_standard_prime_f2_t21/ Edited September 12, 2023 by Uli Meyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Thanks, that is a great source of information indeed! What I am wondering right now: Is the Zeiss Planar 25mm f2.0 not considered to be a "Standard Speed"? Because I see no mentioning of it and I also did find it missing in other listings on the internet before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Uli Meyer Posted September 12, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Fabian Schreyer said: Zeiss Planar 25mm f2.0 Isn't that a 16mm lens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It probably is (actually, that is what I am trying to find out as well). I am just curious, because the Distagon 8mm f2.0 is listed and that is a 16mm lens as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Talking about the 25mm: Can someone tell me the difference between these two lenses? #1: https://www.ebay.de/itm/225551040160 #2: https://www.ebay.de/itm/225553608825 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Uli Meyer Posted September 17, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted September 17, 2023 2 hours ago, Fabian Schreyer said: Talking about the 25mm: Can someone tell me the difference between these two lenses? #1: https://www.ebay.de/itm/225551040160 #2: https://www.ebay.de/itm/225553608825 One is a later model as you can see by the serial number on the front insde ring. Both are 16mm Arri S mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Makes sense. What I am curious about: The presumably older version has this ring with red and green arrows that say T and F. Do you know what this is for? (I guess it has something to do with t- and f-stops, but I cannot really make a lot of sense of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joerg Polzfusz Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I would assume that the dial is only in f-stops and hence guess that the red/green arrows are only for indicating something like „totally closed“ and „fully opened“. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Interesting thought! I think I'll go by it unless someone gives a better explanation ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dom Jaeger Posted September 18, 2023 Premium Member Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 9/17/2023 at 12:43 PM, Fabian Schreyer said: Makes sense. What I am curious about: The presumably older version has this ring with red and green arrows that say T and F. Do you know what this is for? (I guess it has something to do with t- and f-stops, but I cannot really make a lot of sense of it) Yes, an index mark for either T stops (measuring actual light transmission for accurate exposure) or f stops (the geometric aperture which determines depth of field) could be selected. Later lenses for professional cinematography were all just marked in T stops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Thanks Dom, I suspected something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabian Schreyer Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I just came across another lens that is kind of a mystery to me. It is a Distagon 32mm/2.8 in ARRI standard mount. https://www.ebay.de/itm/295510909785?hash=item44cdd2a35 Could this be a rehoused lens? At least design wise it does not look like any other Zeiss prime lens for that mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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