Brian Drysdale Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) This appears to be a series of videos on abandoned cameras, in this case the Dalsa 4K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5b9d18rdrY The F900: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugt4Dl9nGo4 The Arri D21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hd87IYYCw8 The Aaton Penelope Delta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SXTzw6sOUw The AJA Cion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNLmX3bZZ5I Edited August 12, 2022 by Brian Drysdale 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg MacPherson Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Just watched the Penelope delta one. Really sweet. Everything I learn about the work of Beauviala is an inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted August 13, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted August 13, 2022 15 hours ago, Brian Drysdale said: This appears to be a series of videos on abandoned cameras, in this case the Dalsa 4K: The Delta was the only camera in that list which was actually abandoned. The rest were actually manufactured in some quantities. The F900 being the most popular HD camera for several years and D21 ushering in Arri's Alexa. The AJA Cion had a horrible imager, thus it was not a successful camera, but yes sold in quantities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) I thought that abandoned was the wrong title for the series, having seen one or two cameras flagged as future videos. I've used the F900 and it was around for many years, although the Penelope Delta did fall into the category. Perhaps they also mean abandoned in the sense of no longer used or abandoned by the industry and/or the manufacturer. Fran 8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhLe4f_Fd4 Sony F35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT85yb6mUdE&list=PLQZkJfDdY7uApTeybPHpCgIHxA_v_auzf&index=3 RED 28k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9mgkx9C8wg&list=PLQZkJfDdY7uApTeybPHpCgIHxA_v_auzf&index=9 The first URSA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtDl4Vmw1p0&list=PLQZkJfDdY7uApTeybPHpCgIHxA_v_auzf&index=10 Panavision Genesis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJh7guRTQew Edited August 13, 2022 by Brian Drysdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) Regarding the F900, the video centres around its use with Panavision lenses on the Star Wars film. BTW I've used the later Panavision F900 that they rented out, it's a heavy camera with its customized body and Panavision zoom. Edited August 13, 2022 by Brian Drysdale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted August 13, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted August 13, 2022 37 minutes ago, Brian Drysdale said: Fran 8k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAhLe4f_Fd4 This camera for sure belongs on the list. However, I do think it's vaporware. They made a prototype that looked decent on the outside and realized it would cost 10X the amount to actually manufacture them, so they filed for bankruptcy. It's happened so many times to manufacturing companies and it's sad. But yes, the Fran 8k 100% fits the series of videos. Ohh and where is the video about the Dalsa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 The Dalsa is the top one in the first post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5b9d18rdrY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Owens Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Abandoned cameras more in the sense of looking at cameras that kinda died off at one point or another in the industry. Some of the episodes we do set it up as "was it Abandoned" glad everyone seems to be enjoying it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Wyss Posted August 13, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) As most of you know I am into mechanical cameras. I have an evergrowing list of abandoned ciné cameras. Ikonoskop A-Cam DS-8, never built, 2007 Arriflex DS-8, 1967, fourteen examples built Optikotechna OP 8, Double Eight, prototype, 1939 Heurtier Zoom Reflex 8, Double Eight, prototype, 1963 Cine-Nikon 8, Double Eight, prototypes, 1955 Carena 8, Double Eight, turret for three lenses, prototype 1958/59 Bilora Cine Bella, Double Eight, prototype, 1958 Беларусь (Belarus), Belomo, similar to Bauer 88, predecessor to later LOMO cameras, prototype, 1959 Bauer 88 DRS, Double Eight, prototype, ? Optikotechna OP 16, prototype, ? Leitz Schmalfilm-Kino 16-8, never built, 1937? Eclair KMT, André Coutant, 16 mm, both prototypes vanished, 1960 Bell & Howell Filmo, 17.5 mm film, crank, 1917 Leitz, 35 mm, magazine for 130 meters, allegedly 1911 Buckingham Silent, Henry Laurie Buckingham, Mordialloc, Victoria, Australia, 1976. https://cinematography.com/index.php?/forums/topic/87409-a-tiny-2-perf-camera-what-you-think/ ARRI Valencia; 3-perf. film advance, mirror shutter, speed up to 250 fps, prototype, 2008? Howell-Dubray Economic Wide 46 mm, Spectacular Wide 52 mm, Extreme Wide 61,3 mm, 1930 Le Prince, paper strips 1¾“ wide (44,45 mm), strip advanced from lower to upper spool, variable shutter (at standstill), twin lenses, allegedly two examples, one survives with the Science Museum, 1888 Edited August 13, 2022 by Simon Wyss omission corrected 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted August 13, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted August 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Brian Drysdale said: The Dalsa is the top one in the first post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5b9d18rdrY Ahahah whoops! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Gruenberg Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 5:42 PM, Simon Wyss said: ARRI Valencia; 3-perf. film advance, mirror shutter, speed up to 250 fps, prototype, 2008? In this video, Marc states, that they were working on the Valencia (Arriflex 435 HS) until around fall 2008, when they stopped it. There is only the plastic model and an actual working prototype of it. In the German version he goes into a little more detail. He says, that during that time (financial crisis, potential SAG strike, no more film shoots), the rental houses didn't want to buy film cameras since they were afraid that they couldn't earn their money back. They even cancelled their orders. Arri didn't have any orders and couldn't sell their cameras, so they had to cancel project Valencia, which was one of Marc's favorite projects, on which they had worked on for a long time. English Version: German Version: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted August 14, 2022 Premium Member Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dominic Gruenberg said: In this video, Marc states, that they were working on the Valencia (Arriflex 435 HS) until around fall 2008, when they stopped it. There is only the plastic model and an actual working prototype of it. Yea, Andree told me he heard about it, I think it was 250-300fps? But I believe it wasn't reliable enough. Edited August 14, 2022 by Tyler Purcell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Lindsay Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Some good stuff in there.. but Oddly named series that is maybe only meant for people under 35 with brains wired for conspiracy? Also Why nothing on PV's very expensive abandoned digital camera?... https://nofilmschool.com/2013/01/red-epic-dragon-arri-alexa-sony-f55-f65-panavision-70mm-camera actually most of the list is cameras which did actually come out.... or does abandoned inc coming out but not selling well? .. surely failed is better name as all cameras are eventually abandoned? even my crap memory remembers loads of other abandoned cameras http://www.urbanfox.tv/articles/cameras/c19joedunton.htm what about Kinetta from Jeff Kreines... thank you Simons for your mechanical list ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Drysdale Posted September 12, 2022 Author Share Posted September 12, 2022 I suspect there will be more in the series. Some new ones: The Digital Bolex https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ9JKCpbC9M The IKononoskope A Cam https://youtu.be/u5N5zXJT0pU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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