Julia Gers

Yay! Yes! Exactly! and I agree. Just to discuss. I didn't mean for this to be to come to any kind of conclusions, or to figure out some huge mystery. I just wanted to discuss it some more (after the previous thread had been closed) and give other women on this thread a chance to give their opinion.

I do think role models are helpful to have. Still, though, if throughout time everyone always just said "no one else like me is doing this, so why should I?" then no one would have ever done anything. The world (or at least the US) would still be completely dominated by white males today and there would also still be slavery. Major change happens when someone goes out and does something specifically because no one else has done it yet. They do it to show the world that, yes, it can be done. Whether you rely on role models or not to motivate you to accomplish your goals, you still have to have a certain about of "I want to prove to people that I can do this." It doesn't matter if you're trying to prove to the entire world that it's possible, or if you're just trying to prove to a friend or parent that you can do it.

This might sound kinda weird coming from a girl and from a kid, but that actually sounds really fun to me. If I'm working on a film/shoot/whatever, if it's something that's important to me or is over a topic of interest to me (aka: important to me), then I would gladly put up with those kinds of conditions rather than give up the opportunity to work on whatever project it was. (for instance, if it was anything to do with animals (especially reptiles (especially snakes if you want to get real specific)) then I would probably do almost anything if it meant not missing the opportunity to work on the shoot. Even those conditions, not being a film shoot, sound fun. Camping in the desert? I mean, come on! I dunno about the rest of you, but that actually does sound really fun to me. Just think of all the things you'd see that don't even exist in cities or even urban areas! Yea... That also sounds like fun to me. I dunno about dragging equipment up a large hill or mountain for hours on end though... It really just depends on an individuals attitude I think. If I was on a shoot in the location mentioned in the first quote here from Tom and, say, I wasn't getting enough water and I couldn't stand at all the people I was working with, then yes, I'd be misserable and probably complain and whine a lot. But as long as I've got water and the people I'm working with are likable, then, even if it's really hot out, I've been wearing the same underwear for a week, and ect., I will still make the best out of the experience and try and have a good time and be happy that I got to go somewhere I'd never been before and see things I wouldn't get to see anywhere else. Actually, if it was really hot out (as deserts often are) it would probably put me in a not so great mood regardless of other things. I don't like the heat that much. But put me in a super cold location and I will shiver all I can and still be happy and never complain.

LOL @ the mauve thing. Hey, I didn't know what mauve was till I saw it here. ...I didn't know it was an actual color.

I've always been faced with worrying that I won't be taken seriously in the business. Even though next year I'll be in college, I still feel like I'm a kid compared to other people who are already in the industry (namely: you all :P ). That's the main reason why I feel I won't be taken seriously when trying to get a real job, even though when that time comes I'll probably be taken seriously as an adult. I'm realizing now, however, that it's not just that that I have to think about. It's also 'will I be taken seriously because I'm a woman?' or the fact that I'm short and not all that strong (I'm no wuss tho), but am still willing to carry stuff heavy or not. I've done some tech for plays at my school and done some free grip work and people are always just handing me small things to carry or hold. I find that if I really want to feel like I'm helping I have to tell people I'm willing to actually help (even though I'm there with everyone else to help out in the first place). It's rather annoying, but perhaps if I want to make it I'll have to get used to all that. (Since I'm a senior, when I do tech next semester I'll get to boss around all the freshmen who don't know what they're doing mwahaha lol...though I'm really not a bossy person at all, but still it might be fun right? :unsure: :huh: )

I've noticed that before too. I've no idea why it is that way. It's kind of just general gender archetypes(don't know if this is the right word but it sounds kinda right anyways) I guess.

Sorry for posting twice. I tried to edit my last post, but it wouldn't let me and kept giving me an error message. Here's what I wrote for the end of my last post. My parents tell me I can be whatever you want. My mom is thrilled that I want to go to art school (she's an artist) and my dad is thrilled that I wanted to go into pretty much the same business as him. It seems kind of like nurture. But a friend of mine wants to be an artist (I think she wants to be a painter), but her parents don't want her to do art or go to art school. They want her to do something where she can make a lot of money, like being a lawyer or doctor. She lives with her brother here (she's not from the US) and he hates that she likes art. I'm not sure why. Yet despite all this she still wants to be an artist, wants to go to art school, and does art. That there seems like nature. I think it really depends on the person whether they let their interests and career choices fall to nature or nurture.

Yea that's what I meant. I don't know if it's necessarily a lack of role models. It's definitely a lack of specifically women in the industry as role models, though. There are plenty of women who are role models for success (i.e. Oprah, Hilary Clinton(depending on one's political views of course), ect. ect.), and there are plenty of role models in the film or more specifically cinematography industry. I have some cinematographer role models. And it's true that none of them are women. But whether they were women or not wouldn't change how I look up to them. Also, I know two women directors. I know women who love sports more than most of the guys I know. One of my friends wants to be a microbiologist and she's not letting being a woman stop her. I think maybe it could be both nature and nurture. My friend who wants to be a microbiologist, both her parents are scientists. I'm a total computer nerd and want to go into the film industry. My mom has trouble even working Word, while my dad is a total computer genius and is an editor and television engineer. So while I'm learning what I can from my dad and my friends learning what she can from her parents (there's the nurture for you) it's still hard to wonder if any of it is still just nature. I personally think that part of it is, but that most of it is still nurture.

I don't know if any of the other women on this board have read the women in the film industry thread. I read all three pages of it. It seemed like a pretty interesting discussion to me. I had wanted to reply. I wanted to put in my two cents on the issue because I noticed that there were NO women who had posted on the topic yet. But when I went to reply I noticed that the topic had been closed. There were a few obvious reasons why I could see why it would be closed. I'm creating this topic to discuss the issue of women in the film industry. This time, though, I think we should give some of the other women here to give their opinion about it before we close this topic. I've talked to a few others and they said this seemed like a good idea, but mods, if you're just annoyed at the idea of another thread on this topic, or just don't like the idea of bringing it up again, then go ahead and close it if you must. I will say this now: Please, if you can, try and refrain from making any racist, homophobic, extremely sexist, or extremely stereotypical comments. Thanks. If you would like to read the previous discussion of this (which happens to not include any womens opinions) it's here http://www.cinematography.com/forum2004/in...showtopic=27173

I hadn't really heard anything about the school other than just having what they sent me in the mail, so it's good to now have other peoples opinion of it. From what you all are saying about it, it doesn't really seem like the kind of place I'd like anyways...having to work so much like that and then coming out with the wrong sense of the business and a lack of knowledge. I might go there or LA Film School after college. It'll probably be LA Film School, though, since it's actually in LA. SCAD is actually where I'm most likely going to end up. My mom works there teaching in foundations. I went and visited the school and took a tour and then also a more personal tour of just the film and television buildings. I really liked the school, but I didn't like the town that much. It seemed too historical and old-timey for my taste, but I'm sure I could get used to it. (I did like Tybee Island a lot though :) ) Have any of you heard of Brooks Institute in Santa Barbara? I originally thought it was only for photography and was looking at it for that (because photography is my other option if not cinematography), but in looking at their website I saw that they're also a school for film. And it looks like they have a specific cinematography program. I couldn't find the tuition and fees cost anywhere on the website so I just went and filled out the application anyways. Then when I was done with that it finally told me the cost and it was super expensive, so I never sent the application and now I'm ignoring their phone calls :( . Their website wouldn't say their costs upfront, and the message the lady left on my phone said they wanted to talk to me personally first before even bothering to think of even looking at my application...so now I've kind of got this thought that the people there are kind of upity... Anyways, was just wondering what people knew about that school.

So, I've been looking at colleges (mostly art schools) with good film programs. Full Sail is supposed to have a really good program. What I can't figure out, though, is if it is an acutal 4 year school or not (like LA Film School isn't a 4 year school). Does anyone know if it is or not?

You can get an external hard drive. It just plugs into the USB port on your computer and you use it like a giant memory stick. or you could just get a bunch of memory sticks, or you could use disks (cds or floppys...cds are probably better though). I'd say out of all of those, your best bet would probably be an external hard drive/giant memory stick thing (i don't know if its actually called an external hard drive, but i'm pretty sure it is)

would cinematography and photography majors most likely have some classes together like "intro to lighting", or something like that?

Thanks everybody who replied! I'll try craigslist, and also if decide to really get into it i can make some posters and put them up around town to try and get people interested. i also might have work tomorrow (am interning with a director and also with a cinematographer) and will try and bring it up and see what they've got to say about it too (maybe, hopefully, they'll want to help :rolleyes: ...but i kind of doubt it as they're busy with other stuff...but we'll see).

Do you mean a program to just use to upload to the web, or a program to convert the file type (I'm not sure if many sites let you upload AVI files)? If you're looking for something to convert it, then you might be able to just open it in a simple system like windows movie maker or something and just resave it as a different file type. I'm sure there's an easier way, so just wait for someone else to answer :unsure: .