Kenneth Wajda

The first shot of the bride in the study, in color, and the next few couple color shots that follow it are 16mm with a 10mm Schneider prime.

http://www.vimeo.com/1796949 is the link. Wedding shot in Super 8 and a little bit of 16mm. Super 8 BW was Canon 1014 xls and 814xls, and color was Beaulieu 2008S and 4008ZM. !6mm was an Arri S. Film was Tri-x and Plus-x in the Canon's. E64 in the Beaulieu's. And 7285 100D in the Arri. Ken

Will post link soon.

Shoot backlit. Makes for pretty pics and will work with your exposure.

Feel free to add to this equation--this is the lowest I've been able to figure: Film PLUS-X @ $11.00/roll (John Schwind--he uses USPS, cheaper than UPS/FEDEX Kodak uses, and he's only $.40 higher/roll.) Processing: Film Video Services Minnesota @ $7.50/roll (I just found them-anyone have any experience?) $18.50 for 200 seconds (3:20) at 18fps. Transfer myself with a HVX200 HD variable speed camera and a Variable Speed Projector Total $5.55/minute As an added benefit, S8 blends in and doesn't attract the kind of attention a 16mm or 35mm camera attracts, for permits and such. Needs much less personnel to operate. Just a thought. Andrew

Here's how I calculate my Super 8 film costs--which I think if you can add your own telecine process, the cost of S8 is quite affordable. I am shooting mostly at 18fps because I want that "old time" look. But I put the costs for 24fps as well. Film PLUS-X @ $11.00/roll (John Schwind) Processing: Yale @ $14.00/roll $25 for 200 seconds (3:20) at 18fps. Transfer myself with a HVX200 HD variable speed camera and a Variable Speed Projector Total $7.50/minute (My most used setup) Film 64T @ $19.00/roll (Yale) Processing: Yale @ $14.00/roll $33 for 200 seconds (3:20) at 18fps. Transfer Myself with a HVX200 HD camera and a Variable Speed Projector Total $9.90/minute Film PLUS-X @ $11.00/roll (John Schwind) Processing: Yale @ $14.00/roll $25 for 150 seconds (2:30) at 24fps. Transfer myself with a HVX200 HD variable speed camera and a Variable Speed Projector Total: $10/minute Film 64T @ $19.00/roll (Yale) Processing: Yale @ $14.00/roll $33 for 150 seconds (2:30) at 24fps. Transfer Myself with a HVX200 HD camera and a Variable Speed Projector Total $13.20/minute It seems to me the telecine costs are significant in this process, virtually doubling or tripling my costs. That money could be invested in a good HD camera and telecine projector. This is all for personal projects, paid for out of pocket. On a commercial shoot, it doesn't matter as the costs will be passed on to the client. Here are Spectra's discounted specials: 8 Pack 8 Rolls Super 8 (20 min) Processing Prep & Clean 1 hour RANK Transfer @ 24fps Mini DV or Beta SP Tape Cost: $553.00 Discount: $94.00 Final Cost: $459.00 Total: $22.95/minute Spectra's largest order with the biggest discount: 48 Pack 48 Rolls Super 8 (120 min) Processing Prep & Clean 6 hour RANK Transfer @ 24fps Mini DV or Beta SP Tape Cost: $3258.00 Discount: $879.00 Final Cost: $2379.00 Total: $19.83/minute Anyway, that's how I see it and do it. Thought I would share. Andrew

The Nikon-Zoom 8 was introduced in 1963 and I read somewhere that the standard from 16fps to 18fps happened in 1959, so I think it is an 18fps camera. Interesting take on R8, Will. May I ask what cameras and stocks you typically use? Andrew

The beauty of the Nikon is it has a battery driven motor, so there's no winding. No running out of steam at :30. And it uses four ordinary AA batteries. And since it has the manual exposure, I can use a handheld meter (which I always do anyway) and just set it myself. These Nikons appear to be readily available on the "e" site for $10 or so. I will be curious to hear what you think of the 8mm film when it gets back from the lab. Best of luck. And with the Arri, too. (I had one of those and loved it, but the need for big batteries and the fact it makes a bunch of noise is keeping me from getting another one. I picked up a Bolex H16 and a Bell&Howell 70DR and am going to try them out--they are both spring wound, but not too loud, thankfully.) Andrew

It's not in place of my Super 8's. I have a Beaulieu 2008 with an 8-64 Angenieux and a couple of 814 and 104 XL-S's, so it's not for lack of cameras. Just curious about different formats.

Anyone familiar with this camera? It's a Nikon Zoom 8 Regular 8mm movie camera from 1959. It's in mint condition, the glass is perfect, the viewfinder bright (with a split-prism) and an SLR sytem, the manual exposure works--I'm not even going to try to find the mercury battery for it. I am going to do a test but has anyone any experience comparing frames from a high quality regular 8mm camera (or even like a Bolex B8 or P1) to Super 8 for quality? I was thinking maybe the 8mm is even steadier of an image than Super 8. Or maybe I just love old film equipment. I got it for $10 and it's sweet! And quiet, too!! And I was told by John Schwind that the 25' length 8mm rolls actually have 30' to cover the leader film, so if you're careful and can change in near darkness, you can shoot longer, too. Thanks, Andrew P.S. I also picked up a Fujica Z2 Single 8 because I am crazy! That will be a long-distance test but I am so curious. And it looks so cool and the camera has so much control.

cool! i like your RAIN film. very cool. nice b&w! ken

Interested in the Canon 16mm. Ken

You still selling it? Email me at info - at - downtownwestcliffe.com and maybe we can work something out. thanks. ken

I think I have settled on three primary stocks: 64T for daylight exteriors (actual ceremony and hoopla, but used sparingly), Plus-X for daylight exteriors (actual ceremony and environment, before and after, general coverage), Tri-x for all interiors and late day exteriors (all prep getting ready, dressing, etc.) And 500T as an emergency stock, just in case there is no light (though I plan on not taking the VFW Hall weddings). I added a Sekonic L-508 meter I picked up on CL for $120! Sweet price!!! Thanks everyone. And I am still open to new opinions if you thought of anything. Andrew

Thanks for all the help, everyone. I appreciate your advice.