Johnny Gorry

The camera that I am going to be shooting with for an event (Agfa Movexoom 10 MOS) has a shutter angle of 180 degrees. These are the exposure times listed for the camera printed in the manual: 1/14 sec @ 9 fps 1/28 sec @ 18 fps 1/38 sec @ 24 fps 1/84 sec @ 54 fps The manual for my light meter (Sekonic Studio Deluxe III L-398A) only makes one small mention of shutter angles in regards to cine metering. It states: "Note: Some cine cameras posses faster exposure times due to a narrower rotating shutter angle (angle of light transmitting portion). It is important to know the accurate shutter angle value versus cine speed for your camera in order to determine the proper exposure." That is all that it says about shutter angles and there is no information about how to incorporate this information in to the metering of this device. I will be shooting Vision3 500T indoors throughout the day and into the night with low-moderate mixed lighting during the day and low lighting at night. Any help with how to incorporate this information into the proper usage of this light meter for my cine camera would be incredibly appreciated. Thanks

Ok...I found some information online and from the manual sent to me from Don (from the forum). Thanks Don!! The camera has a shutter angle of 180 degrees. These are the exposure times listed for the camera printed in the manual: 1/14 sec @ 9 fps 1/28 sec @ 18 fps 1/38 sec @ 24 fps 1/84 sec @ 54 fps The manual for my light meter (Sekonic Studio Deluxe III L-398A) only makes one small mention of shutter angles in regards to cine metering. It states: "Note: Some cine cameras posses faster exposure times due to a narrower rotating shutter angle (angle of light transmitting portion). It is important to know the accurate shutter angle value versus cine speed for your camera in order to determine the proper exposure." That is all that it says about shutter angles and there is no information about how to incorporate this information in to the metering of this device.

I just read that Kodak advises overexposing Vision3 500T film 1 full stop. So I shoot probably shoot for 1 and 1/3 stops overexposure when shooting- (1/3 accounting for the lens). Since I am going to be shooting the 500T indoors with low light and night footage, I should probably just open the lens all the way up for these shots??

Hey Max, Thanks for all of your help. It is very much appreciated. I am still learning so forgive my ignorance. Thank you for your patience and desire to help, though. On my light meter, I don't think you change anything for the frame rate, you just check the aperture scale that corresponds to the frame rate you are using. I don't know the shutter angle and there is no way that I can find out. I cannot get a manual for this camera in time and there is no information about this camera on the web (at least not about its shutter angle). All of the 500T I have will be shot indoors and mostly under artificial light. I have some 200T for daylight outdoor shots. I have read that cameras meter for vision2 200T fine.

OK, I have a Sekonic Studio III that is capable for motion picture light metering. So, what would you say, add 1 stop for light loss through the lens? It's quite a large lens.

Hmmm...to quote Ben Stein as the high school teacher in Ferris Beuler's Day Off, "Anyone...anyone? Anyone................anyone?

Is there any special metering that should be done with Vision3 500T? How do automatic exposure cameras read this film? Can one use their auto exposure with this film or should one use an external light meter? I've heard from some people that you need a special filter for 500T on certain cameras? Thanks for you help

Does anyone have a manual or have a link to an online manual or pdf for this camera- Agfa Movexoom 10 Mos Electronic? I need help knowing what some of the controls are for and mine does not have a manual and my many efforts to track one down have been fruitless. For instance, can anyone tell me about toggle button #6

I cannot supplement with any additional lighting. I am helping out a friend by shooting a little super8 for their wedding/reception. I'll have to work with existing lighting. We were trying to shoot it in b+w, but I guess I may have to go with 500 asa.

During the day, it will be natural light streaming in through the windows combined with indoor lighting (non-fluorescent, I believe). Night- just the indoor lighting.

Hello- I have an event that I have decided to film and I would like to use black and white super 8 film. The only problem is that it is indoors and will be going from about 3pm-10pm. I do not have an XL camera for low light. I have an agfa movexoom 10. I have experimentally shot both tri-x and plus-x with another (better camera-beaulieu 6008 which is now dead and buried) in this type of lighting and always got VERY DARK results. Is it possible to commit to shooting indoors day/night with b+w stock, and if so, can someone please be so kind as to give me some pointers to help the film come out better. I really want this on b+w but I feel that I may have to go to 500 asa color film in that type of lighting. All of your advice and comments would be so very appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to read this thread and give it your consideration.