Luigi Castellitto

Can anyone make a list of the Normal 8mm cameras "one run" type? Not Double 8, but those where the film was not turned. They existed only in cartridges (also the Double 8 existed in cartridges, but it's another argument) or not? How many meters did they usually? If possible search one, could use it with the Double 8 films cut in the dark with Lomo cutter? And, most importantly, what is the right name for the format? Beginning myself: the Fairchild sound cameras, should have the Regular 8 "one run", for not create problems with the sound head.

I knew of this problem that presents with the 1014 xl-s. However, it is an expensive camera, if one were to find the "donor" I think it would be appropriate. Perhaps, it would be better to send at a laboratory, which may have a spare board or old spare parts cameras. If the repair costs a lot, obviously, it's not convenient.

Werner, my Bolex has always worked well, with all the emulsion used. The one with Fomapan R100 2x8 100ft was an isolated case, the camera slowed down but didn't stop. I have never been able to understand if it could be a thing related to the camera (but very anomalous, only with 100ft and only once in decades) or if the Fomapan R100 2x8 100ft (never happened anything with the 10 meters) could be "sticky" or be able to present other defects related to perforations or other. I had to try another 2x8 film of 30 meters, even already exposed, just to see how it trun, but I never did. The Fomapan is a very great film, one of my, favorites, but, thanks to the experienced users of this forum, I discovered that my case was not the only one. I am interested in your test, even if the DS8 is not 2x8 and could work differently (maybe the DS8 rollers of your Bolex are "stronger", who knows!). Obviously I hope everything goes well for you!!!, but consider the possibility.

Ah, Werner, I had seen this camera on eBay, very very beautiful! Among other things, I noticed that the conversion of H8 to DS8 was almost always done on Rex3 or older, never on Rex4 (camera that I have). Who knows why... I'm interested in your shot with Fomapan R100 100ft. to understand if even with a conversion in DS8 you can happen into this problem: I'm waiting for your news!

16mm Kodak Plus-X 7231 Negative 122 m (400 ft) Always kept in the fridge. On the box there isn't expired date. 80 euro +shipment cost P.S. For overseas buyers: Italian post is expensive

Werner, with the Krasnogorsk 3 I shoted to -12, no problem! More are simple and better at low temperature.

Thanks for the advice (and for the interesting cameras list!), the one of the adhesive tape is also very useful. Now, I have TWO 100ft daylight spools with a round hole available, so I should have no problems with my Bolex H8 However, I understood why the Fompan does not sell the R100 2x8 100ft format on a round hole spools: not all Double 8 cameras had a round hole for 100ft.

Yes, I would say that the iris closed helped, but the definition of the camera is still good. It is a good optic, no doubt about it. I see that it is still cold, but I believe you have not had any problems of blocking the mechanics or fogging the lenses / viewfinder. How many digital / magnetic tape I saw stuck at low temperatures! :)

In a flea market near home there is this camera, it costs 18 euros. Is worth? If so, I take batteries with me to test it. https://www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/cameras_list/cameras_sankyo/sankyo_cme330.htm

Elmo 8-TL was very interesting, I didn't know it. The Trifilmatic yes, of course, particular machine. I see in some photos of 8-TL, it has proper round spindles, with a knob to close the spool on site, but I can't see the specific Elmo spools out of the camera. However, I imagine that Fomapan also provides the 2x8 of 100ft lenght to allow cuts and uses also in smaller cameras without 100ft feature, such as the classic daylight spools that all machines have.

Simon, what other Double 8 cameras have the possibility of 50ft and up (100ft, etc.)? Including those that use external magazines. However I think I have found the Fomapan 100 2x8 spool: it' with square hole, so I must have done the first pass on a round hole spool.

Great results, Werner. I noticed the definition in depth of field.

Simon, the 50 ft would be useful, but alternatively you can buy a 100ft one and rewond on GIC spools. But it's not very comfortable... I seem to see that even the GIC has round spindles.

Ah, OK! Tell me, will you do a scan of the DS8 shots? I'm curious about the results.

Roger, I have seen square spindles only on Bolex H8 modified for DS8. But perhaps also other modified H8 have them, who knows, I can't tell you precisely. Remains the mystery as what daylight spools Foma using for its R100 2x8 of 100ft.

I'll explain. More than a year ago, I shot a film with this emulsion and lenght of film, and with a Bolex H8 Rex4. The Bolex H8 Rex4 has round shafts, in fact I have 2 original Bolex daylight spools which are like this in photo attachment, with round holes (the photo is mine): If you try to use a daylight spool with a square hole (like for 16mm cameras) on the Bolex H8, it enter, but it's unstable, vibrates. Now there's the part I don't remember, and there are two possibilities: 1) I place directly the Fomapan R100 2x8 100ft daylight spool (in this case spool had a round hole or an adapter), it fit well, and the film passed on the take-up spool that I showed in the picture. Being Double 8, then I shoted the other half of film. OK. 2) As the Fomapan R100 2x8 100ft daylight spool had the square hole, I wrapped up the film on the spool in the photo (in the dark, of course), and used it for feed spool. And I used another daylight spool with a round hole that I have, equal to the other in photo, for take-up spool. Again, obviously, then I shoted the other side. OK.

Roger and Andries, it's 2x8, it should have a round hole compared to those for 16mm camera. Or not? I used it one year ago on the Bolex H8, which certainly doesn't have a square pinion. Or it have a hole with some adapters? I don't remember.

Someone has a photo of the reel/coil in which the Fomapan R100 2x8 30.5m (100ft) is usually contained? I can't find it at home anymore, I don't remember how it's made, I needed it for a project.

I sell one roll of 7,5 meters approximately of rare (cut from a laboratory) Double 8 Orwo DP3. It has no expiration date but has always been kept in the fridge. 20euro + shipment cost. Thank you.

At the moment I can't shot in a negative 16mm. I put the film up for sale on eBay, with regret. ? At the moment I can only shoot in invertible.

Often the viewfinder is also decentralized, because of the pellicle before the prism can be moved a little. Also on this forum there are several skeptics about the Pathé Webo cameras; I can't do it wrong, them have a lot of faults, but there are not many high level cameras for DS8. And in any case, the metallic pressor certainly gives better results than most of the Super 8 cameras What lens did you use for your video? It seems scretched in horizontal. is it perhaps for conversion to 16: 9 for Youtube?

Hack is best way, the forehead method is not comfortable, and you're right, 357 batteries are cheap. Another problem with these Webo is that 90% have a very dirty viewfinder. And from the outside it's little possible improve, because the reflective "pellicle" near the prism is very very fragile. Even a single touch is enough to break it.

And this is the Angenieux of thread that I use with the Pathé. You can see the for the motor of the lightmeter and the small word "Super 8". But it's clear that it has the same collimation distance as the one manufactured to go directly on the Pathé. I wondered, in addition to these Webo and the Beaulieu, on some other cameras might be fine.

BTL Model II (with screw for motor) and BTL Model I like me. :) The first seems to be in very good condition, the second, as you say, a little worse. Did you find a solution for the lightmeter? I noticed that in the second camera perhaps miss the piece that you should lean on your forehead to activate the circuit. But it's not essential, as I said, a modified was made to my camera to work even without activating with the forehead press, just insert the battery. You also told me about an incorrect voltage detected. With the adapter of Small Battery in the picture, which you also know, I feel good, even comparing it with a digital Sekonic lightmeter.

Sometimes I use the manual method like video, very accurate. Your Pathés are like those in the video, that is, without the top hole for external magazines, but with the pin (under black screw) for the eventual motor? Mine doesn't have both, it's this: https://www.filmkorn.org/super8data/database/cameras_list/cameras_pathex/pathe_webo_ds8_btl_1.htm I also had one with the magazine hole and the screw for the motor, but it was in bad shape, and I would never have used those accessories.