Lasse Roedtnes

Hi Anthony, Yes we received the final metal parts this Friday and the electronics are up and running so it looks good from my perspective! I put some photo's on our webpage under the blog section. (http://www.logmar.dk/?cat=6) We do not, unfortunately, have time to film demo footage with the new camera before the Diedesheim fair as we are scrambling to assemble the insanely many parts - apart from a few minor internal tweaks to the electronics and mechanics we will bring the "production model" camera to the fair so people can see exactly what it is we are offering. Enjoy! /Lasse

Hi Guys, We just released some footage show with our camera here: http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=62603 Let's close this discussion thread since it's getting extremely long with almost 600 posts spanning half a year. Best regards Lasse

Hi, The camera has a widened gate (max-8) the rounded corners will not be there on the production model - they will be square (sharp) The lens used is a Schneider Optivaron 1.8/6-66mm. The camera supports any frame rate from 8fps to 54fps with 0.001 fps increments - so 16.000fps is possible :) Best regards Lasse

Hi there! This morning I received some awesome footage from Friedemann, who has been out filming with our original prototype camera. I think it's worth sharing even though the camera used, is not the final production model which we are still waiting for our subcontractors to deliver parts for. The footage has been 2K scanned by the good folks over at GammaRayDigital in Boston. Head over to our webpage at www.Logmar.dk and visit our sample video section to have a look, but please bring your comments back here for everyone to view and enjoy! we would like to thank the following people for their support: The users of Cinematography.com and Filmshooting.com for their endless amount of good ideas and valuable feedback Friedemann Wachsmuth for writing the great article at Filmkorn.org, and volunteering as a beta tester. Perry Paolantonio from GammaRayDigital for providing us with sponsored 2K scanning. Jürgen Lossau for writing the inspirational Super8 books as well as an article about our camera. As well as all the people out there who has shared our story on Facebook, twitter and other social medias! Best regards The Logmar Team

Hi Chris, we've not been in contact with Kodak. with the exception of trying to get in contact with a member of their technical staff to explain tolerances on their film perforations and other similar technical details etc. - however we never found an appropriate contact. Do you have particular questions in mind? best regards Lasse

Hi Guys, We launched our webpage recently (still in alpha stage though) - content is changing day-by-day and we are soon adding some test footage as well - we will keep a blog going on our webpage to keep everyone updated as well as keep commenting here on this mighty fine forum :) www.logmar.dk Thanks Tommy & Lasse

Hi Gabriele That's going to be very easy from my point of view - I'll let you in on a secret. It's the same electronics used in both 8, 16 and 35mm versions - the only difference is the mechanics and that the engine is bigger as you go to bigger film formats, we designed it this way so that it was easy to upscale from 8mm to 35mm. We do have a test rig for 35mm working in the lab (which we used 2½ years ago while prototyping different engines and motor drivers) However we need to become commercially viable with the super-8 camera to pave the way into wider film medias and if that happens then we will most likely do 35mm before 16mm as we already have something done on that platform. :) Regards Lasse

Hi All, Just checking in again to share some exciting news... We've completed our layout of the electronics and shipped the design off to assembly last week and are now anxiously waiting the 20 working days it takes for the boards to come back. Anyone that has ever designed electronics will know that this waiting period is excruciating, the anxiety builds up and you start to second guess the design and have doubts about everything in it - quite silly actually, but true. The most powerful experience is when you initially power it on and press the "ON/OFF" button which in our design sequences all the power supplies and applies power to every circuit on the board. That right there is a do-or-die event because if somethings wrong the whole board could blow up and they you are really in trouble and would suffer a big hit to the schedule and also in terms of economy as a prototype board spin costs approx. 3.000 EUR. The other thing that can happen is that it just "turns on" and then nothing happens which is exactly what we're looking for - (nothing happens because the micro processor is not programmed) at this point you start validating all the power supplies (10 different ones in our case) and make sure that are all within specifications. The next eureka moment is when you attach the debug adapter for the micro processor and it actually sees it and can talk to it otherwise something is badly wrong - the processor could be damaged (for example if the power supplies sequenced wrong) there could be a design flaw, it could be a soldering problem etc. this is also a hairy moment as it's hard to figure out what's wrong if it doesn't work for the first time. All the steps above are usually done (if no problems are found) within half a working day - if something went wrong it could be anything from a day to unknown. This is the point where you start to verify all the existing functionality of the "old" design as well as start implementing all the new features - for me this is the most exciting and time consuming task which unfortunately takes a toll on the family as there's no longer such a pleasure as "spare time" in the weekends and evenings. I promised myself that I would take photographs of this entire process from un-wrapping the boards to powering them on and make a little blog about it, some people might find it interesting. As for the promised new features slight changes in the design from the original which are "partially" visible below (sorry but our CAD program doesn't have all footprints in 3D so it looks kinda weird) are: On the left side above the USB connector (next to the yellow WIFI chipset) you'll find a Mini-DIN8 connector which allows for: External trigger support of Recording and "AUX" functionality (on-demand speed change for example) via DIN-8 to Jack conversion cable so you can use industry standard trigger handles known from Nikon etc. External pre-trigger, immediate trigger and post-trigger options that allow for turning on a light or strobe just before, just after or immediately together with recording (cool feature for time lapse for example) it can also be used for triggering an external audio recorder if that's needed for any reason. On the top to the right, next to the SD-CARD you'll find a 4pin power plug that allows the camera to be powered from an auxiliary power source for example if filming for hours with timelapse - the same plug can provide 12V @ 500mA to external devices such as monitors, flashes etc. On the top to the right, next to the above mentioned 4pin power connector you'll find two new switches - this is the recording switch and AUX function switch - they are now more conveniently placed on top of the camera instead of on the side. On the top to the right, next to the two switches you'll find a standard RCA / Phono plug for an external monitor support instead of the previously used MINI-DIN connector with proprietary wiring, this means it gets easier to use our camera with standard products without having converter cables! As you can see below the jog wheel has been replaced with navigational buttons making it more sturdy and robust - also the user experience should be better. above the navigational buttons you'll find the on/off button and below you'll see the two potentiometers for adjusting microphone gain and monitor audio volume level. We are meeting with our metal workshop partner this Friday evening and then we should have a plan in place for our pre-production quantity etc. and then we should be able to dive deeper into details. Enjoy the rest of the week! /Lasse on behalf of the Logmar team

Hi Anthony, There's two sides to answering your question so please allow me to elaborate :) As of today, the camera's we have out in the field for beta-testing cannot support any of the things you ask for. This is because these camera's only have an electrical brake to stop the motor in shutter parked position, which turned out to be unreliable due to varying cassette inertia. To overcome this issue, we redesigned the electronics (in progress) and the shutter mechanics to be able to also control an electro mechanical locking mechanism that dead-locks the shutter together with the electrical brake this should ensure that time lapse, single frame and programmable exposure would be possible! So right now we cannot support it with the cameras we have in the field nor on the test bench, but the final revision of the camera hardware that we are hoping to get back from manufacturing later this month should allow this functionality and as soon as I have the hardware back this is going to be one of the first things I want to test as it would be cool to have some time-lapse footage to display as well. Best regards Lasse

Hi All, We would like to take the opportunity to wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy and a new year! Also we would like to thank you all for the support, ideas and comments that has helped us move forward in our endeavor to build the most versatile super-8 camera. What's the current status you ask? We've gained a lot of valuable feedback from our beta testers and also from people on this very forum. We have an extensive list of new features (many of which required us to remake the electronics inside completely) we now have complete coverage from 8fps to 54fps tested with different cassettes. Our mechanics are stronger and more durable than ever. the industrial design has been improved by removing the jog wheel that could break off and replaced it with navigational buttons instead which also helped make it more user friendly.The XLR audio path in the camera was completely revamped for higher fidelity and someone asked if we would go for higher sample rate - today our codec does not support higher than 48KHz and 16bits of resolution so it's not possible to upgrade for the time being but we will be adding support for MP3 instead of OGG-VORBIS through a firmware upgrade later on. Our webpage is not yet finalized as you may have seen. (Apologies for that!) The good news is that we're partnering up with new external consultants in early January, so we can get that done and instead focus our energy on getting the camera ready for sales (we are not experts on marketing nor websites so we’d better spend our energy where we can make a difference). In mid january we should receive our final revision of the electronics so that we can get a new small batch of cameras assembled, photographed etc. and then we hope to launch an Indiegogo or Kickstarter campaign for crow-funding and pre-sales in late January to mid-February together with our webpage. Best wishes! Tommy & Lasse

Hi Avery, quote name="Avery Dark" post="398791" timestamp="1385568508"] But seriously, Black or gunmetal Grey would suffice. And Lasse, I know how things could be tweaked and twiddled forever and nothing ever is finished so a commitment to a date is important, but ergonomics and aesthetics wise, is it too late to work on the "box" a bit more? You know we all like to fondle our cameras... So here's a chance to make things sexy oozing shapes that has the stamp of real film on it, not have someone say ahh that an Amira (or whatever box they all look like nowadays)? we are doing an overhaul on the design in terms of custom buttons ect. however the box will still be square since its made out of bended aluminum (to keep the cost down) if we where to mill a box with all sorts of sexy shapes (I would really love to do that)then the price would be around 1000€ more expensive which I'm not sure people will pay just for the looks of it if you look at the beautiful Ikonoskop 16mm camera that's a milled body which in my mind is the reason for their substantially higher price point.

Hi Anthony. The mentioned H8 lenses doesn't work with our wide gate (the lens doesn't cover the entire image) also we do not include any filters inside as there's just air between the lens mount and film. regards lasse

Hi Avery, Thanks for your warm wishes they are very much appriciated. We will open up for pre-orders and normal fundraising via Indiegogo in January and we expect to deliver the first cameras in April provided that we reach a minimum of 10 pre-orders or the equvivalent cash in terms of donations/fund raising. If we make it to 50 cameras or more during the fundraising period, we hope to include NFC tagging of the film cartridges from the get-go, again as first in the industry to do so. This is a direct result of feedback we got from Friedemann for example. The idea is that if you film half a cartridge, and then perhaps decide to swap for a different film type, the camera then automatically (during run time) stores the amount of frames spend on that cartridge together with a programmable name - you can then conviently read it out via your smart phone if you have a big bag containing multiple films that's a very easy way to do so - that way you can easily figure out how many frames should be present on each film and you can have individual names for each film to help you remember what's on them and when you insert an NFC enabled cartridge into the camera it auto loads the settings from that specific cartridge. This works with standard NFC tags that supports the NFC Forum V2 specification - we are right now planning on supporting the NTAG203 sticker which is broadly available with prices below 0.45£ per sticker in low volume. You then put a sticker on each of your film cartridges and that way you can always keep track of them, this is obviously an optional feature - if you dont want to use NFC and put stickers on the cartridge for it then you can use the camera without as well. Regards Lasse

Hi Guys, I've always been a fan of a heated debate - it's nice to see people getting passionate :) and if we keep it going we might hit 500 replies to this single thread - think about that isn't it amazing that this thread has spawned so much action in such a short period of time, I find that really encuraging. Tom, It's completely true what is mentioned - I have properly only shot one film in total of Super-8 in my lifetime, and that film has been shot on our own camera entirely. Obviously I've worked endless hours with test cartridges inside our camera and played with that but when talking about real shot film for private purposes then it's only that one film - My first motion camera was a Panasonic NTSC video camera which I purchased on my first trip to USA after graduating university in 2004. I still own it today and the last time it was in use was in 2010 when I used it to film my daughters first months after birth, I wish I had our camera ready back then as the NTSC video looks "horrible" (especially when my PAL TV tries to convert and upscale it to HD). :D Just because I wasn't born back when Super-8 had it's glory days doesn't mean I don't want to strive at creating the best camera electronics ever made (just like all the people Erkan mentioned tried to do before me) nor does it imply that I'm not affectionate about what we (Logmar) are trying to achieve - I would put it the other way that I do not carry any emotional baggage from the Super8 era so I can concentrate on looking at the results and judging from that. In all honesty this camera started as a farther / son project back in 2008/9 being a Krasnogorsk motor driver and then quickly evolved from there since we both had the appetite to make something more grand than just a plug-in for an existing camera body - In the beginning I just went along for the fun of it (I really enjoy working with my father) and although many people including our own family thourght we where nuts for spending so much spare time and money I could see that my father really believed in film and thourght it so important to finish this camera, so that other's could also share his passion, that's when I realized that perhaps this camera we were building could have some success as there had to be more people out there with the same dream. Does Tommy love the super-8 format? - Absolutely - if he didn't we wouldn't have a camera for it today! Do I love the Super-8 format? - I love the image our camera produces - I do not like the image other cameras which I've seen produces like for instance this video I just randomly found on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd87_jjK1-8 not judging the content but only looking at the video I do not like the lack of Image stabilization, the image moves all over the place and the image pulsates in brightness/intensity which makes it (to me) miserable to watch. My "dream" (which might be different from yours) is to reproduce the look of movie theather quality on an 8mm easy to use camera, that will allow people to film (for instance) their children and proudly show it to their friends without having to excuse the quality or state "you know how super-8 looks like - this is expected behaviour". - I realize this is a strong statement which might hurt some people's feelings but never the less this is my dream and since I was born in 1983 and brourght up with video and later on with HDTV and plastic colors looking at my fathers old super8 recordings from his childhood just looks dull and bad to me - it's hard (in my mind) to make this format appealing to a younger generation without doing a mayor overhaul and vetting out all the "quircks" as well as making it appealing from a technical standpoint (no more wind-up cameras etc.). I have a dream that one day my daughter (who is severely handicapped) will be able to show her caretakers or perhaps remaining family (when my wife and i are no longer around) some film of how her life was growing up and the only media that can give me this assurance of time is film, which doesnt fade out or becomes lost as digital memory does it - this is why I'm doing it, that's my motivation and it's a very strong one for me. Are we in it for the money? I would be lying if I said no, since there has to be a profit to ensure warrenty and pay back our investment, but make no mistake we are not whipping the cream on this camera with the current price point of 2.000€ ex. vat, the small scale of things makes it extremely expensive to make. If we had the luxury of say Arriflex that we could manufacture 1.000 cameras inhouse with existing equiptment the case would be different however we need to get third-party vendors to do the majority of the work and they do not work for free as mentioned earlier labour costs are extremely high in Scandinavia - properly amoung the highest world wide which doesn't help us at all. My motivations are listed above :) It was a "marketing move" - There didn't seem to be a point of releasing a camera with no market for it :blink: That said our camera is a platform - the "box" supports 8, 16 and 35mm with more or less the same mechanics* and electronics (*=ofcause there's big differences on take-up etc. but the motor etc. is the same) it was build in this way so that we could "quickly" spin derivatives depending on the market situation and allow us to build follow-on camera's later. Our vision is to become the preferred supplier of easy to use, afforadble film cameras wheather it be 8, 16 or 35mm. It's a big vision but we believe we have the ingredients to make it work. Erkan - your statement about the transport speed is true, however when watching the recorded film you are playing it back at a fixed speed and hence you wouldnt notice if it ran a little too fast or slow regardless of the transport speed since frame rate is what you see with your eyes and then it doesnt matter what the transport rate is - the only way to tell is that audio comes out of sync or if the movie all of the sudden plays back in charlie chaplin mode :D I would like to clarify this a little so that people dont get the wrong impression or starts screaming conspiracy :D Logmar is compromised of Tommy and myself - a two man strong team doing mechanics and electronics, we've had help externally with certain aspect of the project, for example we've hired in some marketing people to do logo and website and we've had an external FPGA designer wokring on our first CMOS based viewfinder but that is "history" now as we now use CCD, we've also had help from friends with getting some of the first mechanical parts manufactured before we had enough money put together to have it made a proper factory. When we the first time told people about our project (on this very forum, in this exact thread) a few people approached us volunteering to alpha test our camera. One of these people was Mr. Friedemann, who amoung others have been instrumental to our current success by providing feedback on things to improve in both hardware and software. We rely on these people to give us open and honest feedback on things they like and things they don't like as well as figuring out what can be improved - for instance when it comes to stuff which can break (see below) As a direct result of this feedback we are doing a major overhaul of the camera just now - removing the jog wheel and replacing it with navigation buttons instead - as Erkan also pointed out the jog wheel could break off and that happened to one of our testers - also the WIFI antenna placement is under consideration (luckily we haven't had any lawsuits over an alpha tester going blind yet) :) but it's position will most likely move. Other things we are improving is the battery holder (making it more sturdy) as well as placing the record button and alternate speed/phase advance button in a different more accessible place and adding the provision for an external record trigger - for example from a handgrip with trigger button or similar. There's no agreements of giving away free cameras to any of our alpha testers nor paying them to work for us! - their work is entirely voluntarily – we just provide them with a camera and film plus accessories, provided they give us the film shootings they’ve made so that we can publish them on our website as well as provide us with feedback on the camera - after the alpha test the cameras are returned to us as the alpha camera's will no longer resemble the final product this has been agreed with all our testers in advance. Also having external testers provides us with an unbiased opinion - obviously we think we are the best in the world and that our product is as well, but third party people doesn't have this bias and that's why we use them. Best regards Lasse

This is true (that playback speed would change with fps) however that the film would move slightly sideways for example wouldnt be noticeable since it would be a very slow motion compared to what your ear can hear - also the filtration on the playback device together with automatic gain control would eliminate this. if the playback speed varied that would be noticable only as "lip sync" problematic - you wouldt be able to tell if it was running too slow or too fast (unless we are talking many fps difference) :) Regards /Lasse

Hi Tom, Every engineer wants to see their invention succeed, otherwise they wouldnt have become an engineer in the first place so obviously they did what they could to make their products the "top notch" however it's extremely rare that a design is not driven by a marketing team - what I mean by this is that marketing would figure out what will their user segment pay for the item in R&D, what do the users expect in terms of features etc. and how should it look appealing enough for people to actually buy it? Once this is figured out a MRD (marketing requirement document) is written which is then handed over to the R&D team together with a target cost price and a whole set of design constraints, especially in terms of estetics (the way the product should look when done) and in 99.9% of all cases the wanted look of the product or the target cost contradicts the best way to design it and then you have to make compromises - I have never in my 10 years of R&D heard about a (bigger) company that doesnt do this simply because if you dont do it you are not sure that your product will satisfy the market and hence you could end up designing for nothing. The camera's you mention I do not know but they properly had a wealth of buttons and features that made them appealing when they came out - perhaps it was the build quality, perhaps it was the feature or maybe it was the marketing budget in terms of ads in newspapers that did the trick - I wouldnt know but people have always wanted to purchase for sometimes less-obvious reasons. Look at the people who sleep outside apple's stores before a product launch - that's great marketing right there! Is the products really better than anyone elses on a technical level? - I doubt it. People, unlike machines sometimes act upon "feelings" and emotions rather than common sense and facts and that to me what makes life worth living and also why I believe we have a chance of actually selling our camera in the first place because compared to the millions of digital cameras out there it would be hard to compete if just looking at the technical details since they have 1000x the features etc. Regards Lasse

Hi Tom, I do not want to come off arrogant at all, but I take note in these lines below and that reassures me that I'm right in my assumptions which are that people where satisfied with mediocre quality and hence there was no need to improve it further. "Millions of Super 8 users seemed to be quite satisfied with the sharpness of their films. Jamming or any other malfunctions due to the cartridge were extremely rare." Also I cannot understand what the below statement actually means since I fail to see how the sound relates to this issue? "Subsequently I have exposed several cartridges of sound film in the camera, and I cannot detect that the increased gate tension has made any difference to the running or to the sound quality - exempt that the breathing effect at the start of the shots has now been completely eliminated". I do not know how sound was made on super-8 film back in the day, but if it was a magnetic stribe I would argue that you wouldnt be able to tell from the sound wether the camera's film was shaking around or not since the camera's run rate would run in the range of 1fps to perhaps 60fps which would be heard as a hum (just like 50/60Hz line hum) and for magnetic stribe solutions they do not typically have the dynamic range to record such a signal anyway (just like on an LP). Regards Lasse

Hi Erkan, I can only say that pin registration, pressure plate and side stabilizers makes our camera stand out from the others and in my opinion we have the best engineered solution ever made for 8mm. Ofcause we have the advantage of 30 years dwell time and we've had all the time we needed (3+ years) to make it work where our former competitors had to release cameras in an endless spree to keep up with competition - just like you see a new TV model being launched every quarter or iPad etc... My personal belief is that they opted out because of one (or more) of these facts: A ) It was a cost adder hence less money in their pockets B ) They didn't think the consumer's had the brains to figure it out (loading is no longer trivial) C ) Perhaps they didn't have the skills to engineer it in the first place I would say A & B are more propable than C, but think about it - everyone else was using just the cartridge so the consumers where already used to an image shaking like a parkingson patient and they where satisfied - so why change it for a more expensive solution and risk loosing market share? We haven't had any of these concerns ( A & B ) when we designed our camera and the market share issue was non existing since there was no market share to be had in the first place from anyone (our competitor is eBay) and since we are not targeting "average joe" and his dog but either professionals or semi-professionals that have some experience with film already we do not have to make our camera completely "idiot proof" like the earlier manufactures. Regards Lasse

Hi Tom, the shutter is the oscillating mirror it is fixed at 180degrees and the frame rate is freely programmable from say 8-54fps (we are still validating the rates) the frame rate is Any Rate programmable so you could have 23.567fps if you want but during recording its fixed to what ever you set it to. there's a phase advance feature that adds 0.25fps to your programmed fps setting while you hold this button (during recording) we could allow people to freely program the phase advance frequency - say you want 25fps when pressing record but then have 50fps programmed as alternate speed which can then be activated immediately on the fly while recording by pressing that button. basically imagination sets the limits. we have not measured the ambient noise in dB yet this is on our "to do" list. I feel I need to point out that our camera is a commercial product NOT a DIY kit we do not want people to do anything with it other than filming. We provide open source only on our remote protocol as there might be creative people out there who can do a better job on the app side we don't want people hacking our camera or swapping motors (why would you!?) - perhaps I'm missing the obvious. lasse

Hi Tom and Erkan, I appriciate your feedback and while our design is not rocket science nor the holy grail of electronics, there's still a few novel ideas behind it, especially in the motor control circuitry (nothing worth filing a patent over, but still). The motor controller we have implemented takes up an A4 page in schematic form and is a complete stand-alone PLL circuit without any processor intervention (after the reference frequency has been programmed into a direct digital synthesizer) - the circuit is (when you look at it) seemingly simple. However devil is in the details, and we've spend more than a year to refine it and it's made so universal that the exact same motor controller will be used in our 35mm camera that we have in development. I'm a fan of open source and that's why we are opening up our remote control WIFI protocol for people to write their own apps (if they want to) however the actual processor source code is not something that we want to provide as open source (while we are still active) as the internal power supplies requires sequencing during power on and when changing frame rate for example - and if this is not observed properly the camera can "self destruct" so we wouldnt want to allow people to "play around" with the source code as we have a warrany obligation to fullfill and this could brik the camera. Regardless of the product you go out and buy in the market today let it be niche or mainstream you cannot expect the vendor to provide you with schematics and source code, I cant think of any product I've ever purchased that gave me this to go with it actually and although it would be nice there's ofcause the competitive element in it in that you dont want to enable others to copy your product. But more importantly (and why we are extra careful) is that you dont want your customers to take your product apart and potentially brik it and especially the warrenty issue is something that we take very seriously - we will honor warrenty but we do not want to put ourselves in a situation where we (for instance by providing schematics etc.) risk that people think they can fix it themselves (or think they can improve it) and then potentially damage the camera even more beyond repair - we will also service cameras that has passed warrenty or is still in its warrenty period but we really dont want to touch anything that people have taken apart and done stuff to which we cannot control - just like your mobile phone, xbox, camera, headset or whatever you purchase there's a "warrenty void" seal on the product which we expect people to honor. We perhaps would consider sharing block level diagrams with signal information and power supply build up (all the stuff that would normally fail after say 10 years) along with internal test point information but that would be on a case by case basis and we wouldnt want to share this at all when a camera is still within it's 2 year warrenty period. Regards Lasse

Hi Carl, We already have an internal service manual for the camera that also describes how to bring up the camera from initial production, what voltages can be measured where and how different signals shot look like (oscilloscope plots). the "only" failure mechanism we have in the camera which is not protected (like motor drive etc.) is a couple of electrolytic capacitors these will dry out in a matter of 10-20 years other than these there shouldn't be much that can break. if we decide to obsolete our S8 camera or for some reason our company should cease to exist its my promise that we will post all relevant schematics, reference/service manuals, firmware source code and order numbers for various parts onto these forums for public access. obviously we have no plans for obsolescence nor ceasing to exist however we appreciate that people that purchase our camera wants to keep it alive and kicking and we will do our best to ensure they have all the means to do so beyond warranty. we will not release schematic's etc. as long as the product is selling actively as we want to protect our investment against replicas. regards lasse

Hi Jeremy, We will make sure to post all relevant information when we launch but right now we are not ready. Stay tuned! /Lasse

Hi All, It's been a busy few weeks since our last update and time hasn't stood still ! We've been busy incorporating the great feedback we got from this forum - so big thumbs up to everyone that participated in making this the "people's camera" One of the most noticable things we've incorporated is an integrated side-monitor that allows for point and shoot operation without the "external monitor" so that the camera is not so bulky. Below you'll see the latest photo of our camera (with both external monitor and side monitor attacted) Please notice that the grey and red parts shown are 3D printed PLA plastic - this will be aluminium later on but to save time and cost we decided to 3D print these elements during our design phase. Because we need to have new parts made for the side monitor at our metal works partner and we are waiting for a new hardware revision to come back from assembly, we will sadly not make it under the christmas tree in 2013 (Unless christmas lasts till easter outside the nordics too) ;) We will be launching our webpage with more detailed information next month (December) there will also be links to two interviews we've given to respected german magazines where you can read more about us and our camera - we will launch our webpage together with the articles coming out. When launching our webpage you can expect to see sample footage shot with the camera as well as deep technical information and other cool stuff. There will (hopefully) also be videos that are not shot by us on the webpage together with their feedback on the camera's operation etc. - we are right now scrambling to pull everything together. Our goal is that the camera will be available for preordering in January/February via an escrow service such as Indiegogo or similar with expected delivery in March/April - we need to accept a minimum of 10 preorders in order to start production with our mechanical sub contractors as well as electronics subcontractors. As a special appriciation to those who preorder we will do a "one off" and allow people to have the camera anodized in either Red, Blue or standard Black (see below) - they will also get their name incorporated into the firmware upon booting the camera and if they please have their name/company name displayed on our webpage as people who helped this camera make it from being a "pipedeam" to a full grade production camera. We are right now targeting a pricetag of 2.500€ euro including 25% Danish value added tax - for companies purchasing inside the european union with a valid tax number that equates to 2.000€ euro. For sales outside the european union the value added sales tax is also removed, so the total should be 2.000€ euro (2.695$ USD) I know i've said it before but stay tuned! - It's going to be great Regards Lasse & Tommy

Hi Dom, Thanks for your view. It's true that old films, for example from the freezer, can shrink and thereby cause jamming in the mechanism however we have not had any issues with the films we've been using so far which have all been new films from Wittner/Kodak. The trouble with optical viewfinding is that we considered this too complex/expensive to make since it involves many optical components and you also need to have diopter adjustment for people with glasses etc.,but more importantly the current design has been underway for several years now and we had to draw the line somewhere to finish the product - otherwise it would be "just a never ending pipedream" like some people stated, a one off prototype which couldnt be manufactured in volume. What we have now on the other hand is a design that can actually be manufactured and is designed with that in mind. Best regards Lasse

Hi Guys, You will have the option (in the settings menu) to choose from two different gate settings - with the wide gate you see on-screen a bigger rectangle of where the image will be - on the normal gate option you will see a smaller section as you would expect. Regards Lasse