Daniel D. Teoli Jr.

Thanks, Perry, for the info. Well, from my personal experience, Lasergraphics offers little confidence in a company that will answer questions unless you pay them. That is my experience with them. In another thread I asked you what you have to pay them to talk to you. I haven't got caught up that far, so will see what the verdict is. "You're batting 1000 here Dan. First, nobody is talking about using this scanner for commercial scanning. Daniel is referring to scanning archival footage and from the context of all his other posts, it seems that cost is the primary factor he's considering with a purchase. Something has to give, man. You cannot scan fast and high quality without spending decent money on the hardware. It cannot be done cheaply. So if quality is paramount, and you're on a limited budget, the tradeoff is speed. The quality of scans from the Northlight is great. The fact that you bring up the CMOS vs CCD argument tells me all I need to know - they both good ways of capturing an image. CMOS is the current way to do it, but CCD sensors are perfectly good and in some cases better." Yes, $$ is a big factor. Speed is not that big a factor, but I can't use a machine that take an hour to scan a 400 foot reel. I am looking for a decent 4K machine that reads 16mm op sound and is affordable and reliable. I'm not looking for top end machines for next to nothing. But, I will have to catch up like I said and see what the support fee they change you to talk to them cost. Yes, it surprises me Perry that you can spend $150,000 for a machine and they charge you to talk to them.

Digital ICE can create more issues than you start with. Here are 2 hi-res examples for you to download. Examples of image loss from Epson ICE scan D.D. Teoli Jr. A.C. : Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Other times ICE it can work pretty good. See first beatnik girl in post: NSFW An example of Epson Digital ICE Technology for film scanning restoration – Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection (wordpress.com)

Thanks for the rundown members! It is sad that they sell problem child's like this. If Cintel would just come up with a better sensor and take warped 16mm it would be a pretty good deal for the money.

I'm not sure if this clip from the 1928 film 'The Cameraman' is a seawater public pool, but it possibly is. In the film, the pool was on the ocean. (But you know how far that goes.) Clip possibly of a seawater public pool from 'The Cameraman' with Buster Keaton 1928 : D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive DDTJRAC - WW2 Rationing Archive - Sylvia Schneider Bathing parks / public pools were popular back in the day when many people lived in cold water flats with no bathrooms. They had a sink in the room and a communal toilet down the hall. For a good cleanup they would go to the bathing park / pool. It is too bad most of the old-timers are dead from that era. It would be great to get some stories from them on bathing parks. A one room cold water flat. Captain of Wall Street 90014 - Los Angeles, 1974 D.D.Teoli Jr. On another topic... 'The Camerman' film DVD has a great specials section with a fantastic documentary on hand-cranked cameras of the silent era. A must see if you have an interest in vintage cine' cameras. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/The_cameraman_poster.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cameraman

Jeeesus...you're working? You can afford a place to live in NYC? You should be happy as a proverbial clam. But you need to go into more detail as to your complaint. You just have to keep chugging. Life can change on a dime...or not. Maybe where you are at will be the best or near best for you. Don't know. Would you be happy with your life if this is as good as it gets? With any of the arts you have to work blind, so to speak. In other words, you have to just do the work with little or no expectations of success. Expectations are preplanned resentments. And I'm not talking about having expectations of doing good work, I'm talking about expectations of visions of grandeur and such. If you have talent and are good at what you do, the success in that department should not be that much of a question. You can see it in people that work relaxed and know what they are doing or those that struggle and the outcome is a crapshoot. If that is not your problem, then eat right, lay off the dope, get some heart pumping exercise and plenty of sleep. ... best of luck figuring it out Zach. <><><><> Hollywood Blvd. 1973 D.D.Teoli Jr.

https://cinemagear.com/cameras.html ...and lots more!

Lately have been working on outdoor sports and recreation catalog Archive. It is a mess. I got a few hundred of them. Had hundreds more, but lost them from poor storage. Back 20+ years ago I used to spend a lot of time outside...longboarding, kayaking, bouldering, hiking, skiboarding, (short twin tip ski skates), snowshoeing. Nothing hardcore, just for fun. Now I hardly do a thing...but work. Before I gave catalogs much thought I used to trash tons of them. I wasted a lot of good things that I wished I had now. Paper catalogs were something we took for granted...until they were gone. Some companies don't even want to make PDF catalogs to replace their paper catalogs. Stephenson was something. He was a nudist and put nudie girls in the catalog! When I moved out of a storage unit a few years ago, I was horrified to find the roof had been leaking at the back of the unit for a long time. Not being able to afford a bigger unit, it was all pressure packed with stuff. I had not been to the back of the unit in ages, so I had no idea it was leaking back there. All the paper in that area had black mold and the pages / photos were stuck together. I had to trash it all. Some things were just stinky with mildew smell. Well, I came up with a method to deal with mildew...microwave radiation! Treating moldy and mildewed books with microwave radiation – Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection – II (home.blog) Didn't know what the hell I was doing or if it would even work. But it worked out well. What was the alternative? Trash more stuff? Like I tell you all with your film work...TEST! I'm always jealous of the rich archives with an underground climate-controlled storage behind a heavy vault door. But for the rest of us broke archivists...we are lucky to rent a storage locker. Glad I didn't keep this in the storage unit! This was before Yvon Chouinard became Patagonia. Yvon Chouinard

So, I take it you are against making scanners more user-friendly and affordable Perry. OK, you tell me what Lasergraphics charges to fix your scanner in the field if it is not running Perry? (Not counting parts.) And what do they charge you for support, so they talk to you Perry? Can you imagine in the early days of the Xerox machine if they told customers, it is $11,500 for a field call Perry? No one is arguing that it takes money for a service call. It is just $11,500 for a service call is pretty steep. OBD2? That is why I raised the price 1200% for the diagnostic unit Perry. But forget the OBD2 for a second. If they can't sell a diagnostic unit for that price, then it should be very easy to have the computer run a diagnostic checkup to tell you what parts you need on the scanner. And if they want to charge $299.99 for diagnostic software that is fine as well. Kineograph? I think it is more for tinkerers. I don't want to build a scanner...I just want to use a scanner Perry.

A lot has been discussed on these forums about Lasergraphics not giving you an instruction manual for their expensive scanners. Or if they do give you a manual it is a crappy manual of little use. It would be nice if someone that has a copy the 'instructions' would post a copy of it at the Internet Archive to see what the verdict is. eBay Archive: Fair Use In the old days of early computing, they gave you a thick pack of floppy discs with the operating system on it as a backup. Then when CD's came out for storage, they gave you a thick pack of CD's. Then they cheapened up and you had to use like 30 CD's to make a backup off your computer yourself. Now they give you nothing, but I guess (?) you could get it online. Internet photo: Fair Use What Lasergraphics, and any scanner company for that matter, should do is give you an instructional DVD of how to use the scanner. Or if the company is too cheap to give you a DVD, then post instructional videos at their site. A few years ago, before the virus hit, Lasergraphics would charge you $7,500 for onsite setup and short instruction. So, I'm thinking that is why they didn't want to give you any sort of useful instructions. Lasergraphics wanted to get the setup fee. RPPC DDTJRAC DVD's / video and photo illustrations are great for instructional purposes. They can really breast feed you the scoop! The scanner company could post the instructions / videos online for prospective purchases to study beforehand. That would make a great sales tool in itself. That is what I like about the Retroscan. They breast feed it all to you upfront. https://www.moviestuff.tv/universal_mark-II_support_page.html When I discussed the Volkswagen above being the people's car, it underscores some of these scanner company's business practices of no useful instructions, not being user serviceable and high maintenance / support fees that makes their products more of a rich person's scanner than a 'people's scanner.'

https://archive.org/details/dvw-golden-eye-archive-scanner Uses 2 cameras. Anyone have experience with it? Cost?

Here is an interesting PDF on film scanners by Barbara Flueckiger and some others. Investigation Of Film Material Scanner Interaction B. Flueckiger D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Barbara is pretty knowledgeable with vintage cine' film. She is a Professor in Zurich. Tinted film base / Kodak Sonochrome | Timeline of Historical Film Colors I had written to her years ago with some questions about Kodak's tinted Sonochrome film. Never got a reply.

Over at the Large Format Forum they were discussing their dream 'want list' in a flatbed scanner. With cine' scanners, one thing I'd like is a diagnostic port. You pay the scanner company $299.99. You get a little computer you plug into the port, and it tells you what is wrong with the scanner. Then you call up the company and buy a part from the company for $399.99 + $15 shipping and boom, you are back scanning. And I'm being generous with the scanner companies since I know they mark everything up like hell. So, I marked up their diagnostic reader by 1200% Amazon.com: MOTOPOWER MP69033 Car OBD2 Scanner Code Reader Engine Fault Code Reader Scanner CAN Diagnostic Scan Tool for All OBD II Protocol Cars Since 1996, Yellow : Automotive Remember the Volkswagen Bug? Volkswagen means 'The People's Car.' That is how a cine' scanner should be approached, make them user friendly with repairs. You should not have to pay $11,500 to get a repair estimate on your scanner. As far as the rest of the dream list? As long as it scans sharp and produces quality scans, is easy to use, affordable, reliable and reads sound. I'm not too picky.

Thanks for the rundown Perry. Was this your first / early scanner you started with? I know you like Lasergraphics as you are a big promoter of them. I've had lots of experience with them myself, email experience. They never answer emails. After years of writing, I did eventually get a reply from their sales company that pushes the product. He could not answer tech questions, just made sales. I'd be very worried about giving them a chunk of money and I will never hear from them again unless I give them more money to answer questions. I know you pay them money for support to answer your questions Perry, but I don't have tens of thousands of $$ to spend to get questions answered. The Lasergraphics seems like a beautiful machine. I'd love to have one if I had the money. But the company has very poor support Perry...unless you pay them to answer you.

Thanks! You got to be very careful with scanners. I don't need or have room for a paperweight.

Here is an interesting ad from 1976 for stressed out execs... Look at that postage! Sometimes they ask for stamps for postage. Like 'send .10 cents in stamps.' Old advertising is fascinating stuff, but I still like film better.

Does it get the scanner all wet? Is it hard on the scanner dripping all over?

I was going to try the database software at Open Office freeware. But it said I needed Java. Not knowing much about computers or even having faith in my ability to use Open Office, other than as a word processor, I gave up with the Java quest. Today it hit me, I can just make a master folder for my film Archive. I can make text files within the master folder. Each film gets a text file made for it. I can make a text template to paste in each text folder to standardize the info. Now I have an easy-to-use database that is alphabetized and searchable. And If I want to get fancy, I can make the folders suitable for JPEGs and put a few screen shots of each film in each folder. That was what a film collector did with his collection. He would take photos off the screen as he projected the films and put a handful of photos in each film entry. (Although he used fancy database software of some sort for the rest of the work.) It is very easy to get screen shots when you scan a film. You just hit export on the scanner software and boom...you get 5,000 or 10,000 or 30,000 JPEG or TIFF stills. (Of course, if you want them from a scanning company, you pay a few hundred $$ extra for that service.) I can also use my system for the VHS Archive as well. Nearly a thousand VHS, VHS-C and Betamax tapes to organize. Will I do it and get it all computerized in 1990's tech?? (Or is it 1980s?) Don't know. Right now, my goal is to put all the films in the Archive in alphabetical order, label the cans and then write them down in a hand-written log. After than...who knows? But at least I'm excited I have the option if I want it. Even though I write a lot here, I'm not much for typing into the 'puter when it comes to filling out forms. But it is nice being able to search films for content; especially with the home movies that cover a multitude of content areas. <><><><> 16mm GB (Gaumont-British) Reel Selection from Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Reel & Can Archive Contributed to the DDTJRAC and photographed by: The Old Film Company

Thanks for the rundown Tyler! That would be great if you had photo samples of the cleaning at various stages. Yes, hand cleaning sometimes leaves streaks you can see when viewed in reflected light on the film. Looks like all the ultrasonic film cleaners are from Europe and very $$. Too bad they don't make some cheaper ones in the USA. What type of chemical cleaner does the ultrasonics use? If the films are too pink...turn them into B&W! B&W is better than nothing. Here was a pig in a poke film that was badly faded Anscochrome. I turned it B&W. The Segregated Swimming Hole D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Almost all my archival material is too far gone to be perfected with post work, although a wet gate would help. And sure, some post work could clean them up. But many are multi-generational dupes and the shadows and highlights are gone. There is not much there to HDR or contrast grade. Did you ever find the issue with your FilmFabriek lens? I thought you had said when you first bought it, it was producing subpar scans as far as sharpness.

Thanks for the rundown Todd. I guess I mixed you up with Tyler. Great for you! Glad you did good with your stocks. I got AEO Light, but I would prefer to use an optical reader if possible. There seems to be 2 ways to use AEO Light. You overscan with the optical tract and crop the image later to get rid of the tract. Or you scan the audio only, extract the audio and then marry the audio to the 2nd scan of just the image. Does your optical reader have issues with all films you have tried or just a few? I had heard about another person using the Diamant software. Knew nothing about it, but it sounded interesting. Now that I hear the price, I can see it will be way too high for me. Here is a guy out West doing cine' scanning. He has some interesting things at his site. Who knows, maybe he is a member here? Lasergraphics Scanstation Film Scanning and Restoration 2K 4K 6.5K HDR for 8mm Super8 16mm S16 35mm — Nicholas Coyle On a different note... After I sent in my previous rant this morning about people pestering me for a commercial license to use my films...what did I have in my inbox? 2/16/22 Hi, Daniel. My name is XX, I am a video producer who has been hired to create a marketing campaign for a client based around the XXX series. I came across some footage you had uploaded to the Internet Archive that would be perfect for the ad campaign we are working on, but it was uploaded with a CC Non-Commercial License. I was wondering if this was the correct license for this footage, and if so, if it would be possible to obtain a commercial license. Here is the video in question: Motorcycle Hill Climb 1945 D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide, and for all your work in preserving antique media! -- XX (xxx) xxx-xxx xxxxxxxxx@gmail.com The pestering is constant with these people. And even when you refuse them, they still pester you. God forbid you do ever agree to something, they never reply to your emails again like CBS did. The scum. If any of you deal in stock footage, send me your contact info and I will make a list of stock companies and send it out with my refusals, so they can contact you. Same as I said before that I don't like cleaning film, I don't like this constant email pestering crap from producers. I like digitizing films and I like putting them up on the net...and that is it.

I wasn't thinking scanning as a job to teach. I was thinking just for the additional education, learning about scanning and for the handling film onsite type of thing. Once graduated they may shoot film and need scans, so they learn from the bottom up. Yes, any fool can buy a scanner...as long as they are a rich fool!

I've got my film Archive stored all over. Rents keep going up like hell and I got rid of all my storage lockers I rented due to costs. I don't have a space big enough to store the film all in one place, so I break it up wherever I can find space. I'm just starting to alphabetize the film Archive into A,B,C, order. This section in the photo will hopefully be for films 'M through T.' If I was a good anal person, I would have them all bar coded, scanned and computerized. But not being a good anal person, I'd be thrilled with just having it in A,B,C, order and hand-written in a logbook. (I removed some items from the photo for privacy reasons.) Lately I've scaled back some with the film acquisitions. After nearly a decade of film acquisition only a negligible portion of the films have been scanned due to cost. As I've said before, if you are broke, scanning is the shitty part of cine' film work. The acquiring film can be done on a tight budget. Sometimes you can get films for a buck or two a reel. In fact, the vented plastic archival cans cost more than some reels! Other times it may be $35 a reel. But, whether it is $1 or $100 a reel, it is all miniscule peanuts compared to the cost of a scanner or paying companies to get scans. I got over a thousand reels, which is roughly a million feet of film. To get all that film scanned it is $300,000 to $500,000. Just depends on what kind of scans you want...cheap or good scans. So, I figured, no use adding more fuel to the fire with acquiring another million feet of film that will never get scanned. I've written to many philanthropists that work in all areas of interest from art to film to see if they would help with acquiring a cheap sound scanner and have never received a reply from any of them. Kickstarter said NO to me running a crowd funded 16mm scanner request. I asked the I.A. if they would help or at least loan me a 16mm sound scanner for a couple years. Nothing. In fact, they banned me for a time. I find it amusing how film production companies write me for use of my films for commercial projects and offer me $1 or £1 to sign a commercial use release. Why? Why would I stick my neck out for nothing? What is in it for me? I make nothing with open content work. Plus no one ever wants to help with scanning costs. I don't mind giving things away for free for educational and historical use, even if they won't help...but that is it. I tell them all the same thing...go to a stock footage company and PAY! Or go buy the film and you be responsible for using it commercially. There is no other area of my archival work that is as troublesome as cine' film. Take this 1910 ad of Aunt Jemima. I probably have the largest online, open content, highest quality (res) Aunt Jemima Archive in the world. This ad, which is part of my 1/4 million ad Advertising Archive, is my most expensive ad. I paid about $28 for it. But, it came in a 1910 magazine that had another 100+ ads in it. So, if you prorate the cost per ad to the Advertising Archive, the cost is negligible. And sometimes I can buy vintage mags at a swap meet or yard sale for .25 or .50 cents and get the same 100+ ads in them. And it is the same with most of the other areas of collection. They are not that $$ to deal with. And even if certain items are somewhat higher to acquire; once you acquire the material you are pretty much done with costs. The material can easily be scanned or photographed or in the case of audio and VHS, digitized at home for next to no cost. But, not so with film. Even the video hosting sites have gone downhill over the years. I hadn't put up anything in years at Vimeo due to censorship, but tried one upload this Xmas. I got lots of followers at Vimeo and feel bad I never give them anything, but it is not that I don't want to, it is censorship that is the issue. Boom...an hour after I uploaded the film, Vimeo shut it down and sent me this notice. I'm surprised they leave up the old films I uploaded... NSFW 1928 Cine Art short Hollywood Sand Witches scanned with the $6,000 Retroscan. Well, that is the state of affairs for the Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive on February 16, 2022. Life can change on a dime...for better or worse. Hopefully things get better for the Film Archive. I have many fantastic films in the Archive, but they do no good unless they get digitized.

Is there anything you don't like about your scanner. Have any issues with it?

I was going to start a thread asking just that...are film schools still shooting film? I wonder why the film school does not offer scanning experience as well. Just as they used to and maybe still do, teach the wet darkroom with photography.

You can put up the whole film and put a split second counter on it. That is what Periscope Films does. Then people buy the film 'by the second' that they want. He puts films all over the place.

That is good! Glad things are booming for you. You got a beautiful operation and I know it take a lot of $$ for overhead to run it.