Ian Lishman

Well, I'm just glad not to be alone! Thanks for the contribution, Frank. The fellow with whom I had a realtime, online compare got the same results from his mkiii as me, too. Maybe your just lucky, Ron! On another note, I'll drop you a line re: R5C. Best, Ian

Great to know, Ron. I must put the Sennheiser on the market and get one. All best, Ian

Hi Ron,. great observations, thank you. I really hope the internal mic' does record to a separate channel. Anything else would be a disaster! Surely it must do if you can't disable it..? Best, Ian

Hi Ron, I've just mentioned this in my late reply to your mail. I do hope it works out for you. I liked it for its super-sensitivity - enabling me to turn down my 'noisy' pre-amp. But that wind thing you mentioned is a concern. Will be interesting to find how you find it. I wish the R5C would come into UK!! All best, Ian

I shall go look it up immediately..

Nope, F8 very unportable. The F3 and F6 are both different Zoom models. F3 in particular looks very portable. Wow that's quite a collection!

Thanks Ron, mentioned Zoom in my PM. Like the look of the F8N Pro owing to its 32 bit float recording - no chance of clipping? Though I could set that in the camera, I guess and consider the F3 or F6.. Best, I

Hi Ron, Playing catch-up. Thanks very much for the above. Yes, hiss is actually worse on the internal mic in a quiet room. Probably because it's using an auto setting and the pre amp is turning itself up high trying to hear very low level ambient sound. That's a great suggestion re: running a recorder into the camera. I might hire one and see if it makes a big enough difference. Many thanks, Ian

Hi Ron, Before - I spend a fortune on hiring a body to compare against can I beg a favour? Today I noted I get my bgd hiss/noise if I record audio with no mic attached ('mic' setting not 'mic+48', obviously) at gain dial position 4 onwards (Input 1); really noticeable at 5+ and gets worse the higher I go. (I get no bgd noise at all at any setting on 'Line'. It's definitely the camera's pre amps). Is there any chance you might record a few seconds on 'Mic' with no mic' attached at 5 on the gain dial with menu trim at zero and no attenuation? If you also get 'hiss'/bgd noise doing this, when playing back in post, then I must conclude this is the nature of the C300's audio. No problem if it's a sweat. Many thanks, Ian

I completely understand, Ron. No problem. Meantime, I've pm'd you. Best, Ian

Hi Ron, I really appreciate the efforts you're going to, thank you. It's the only ammo' I've got to support the notion that there's a fault. Can I ask one more favour? Can you give me your serial number to quote to Canon - he raised the idea that there might be a difference between batches.? Perhaps use this site's mail system if you prefer? No worries if you'd prefer not. Regards, Ian

Hi Ron - the tech asked me to ask you what f/ware version you have on your camera? If they conclude the camera is as it's meant to be I'll hire an NTG-3 for a day and see if it's mic noise from the NT-55's or MKE600 - which I doubt. My other issue is that page 2 of the udio menu - for inputs 3 & 4 - remains greyed-out when the expansion unit is attached. Tech is looking at this (as a fault) too. Thanks, Ian

So a tach' from Canon called this morning to say he'd compared my unit to their lab' unit and there was no difference. He agreed hiss became steadily worse from just before 5 on the dial and that this must just be how it is. He said mine was the first complaint he'd seen in this regard. I asked him to escalate the issue with someone above him..

Hi Ron, For sure I'll post the outcome. Your experiences are really helpful to know what I should expect. I'd be ecstatic if my preamps return similar when the camera comes back. Right now it feels like audio is just impossible. Best, Ian

I checked the menu settings - attenuation off; trim levels 0. (I'm not sure under what circumstances to change these values; I probably need as course in basic sound recording). Hiss kicks in at approx 4.5 on the input dials on inputs 1 thro 4 on headphones and in post. Same on battery mic' and phantom mic' and with different cables. Rode NT55's obviously aren't the high end in microphones but surely shouldn't be the cause. Canon said today it sounds like there may be a fault. So I'm sending the camera off to them. We'll see what they find.