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More traditional forms of tampering with ones negative in the processing stage include over or under-developing your film, doing a bleach-bypass, or having the film cross processed. Cross processing refers to using a different form of chemical solution and/or pipeline to develop one specific kind of film. I have recently been researching different ways to manipulate the resulting negative in the processing stage, and one idea that had never crossed my mind until now was using the ECN-1 method of development on ECN-2 film. From what I have read, both methods use the exact same chemicals with the same general workflow, only differing in the length of time and temperature used in part A of the process. Wikipedia says that ECN-1... "...involved development at approximately 25 °C for around 7–9 minutes". Firstly, has anyone here ever tried developing ECN-2 film with the ECN-1 processing method? And if so, to what results? Secondly, would anyone be able to gage what this temperature and development time difference would have on the resulting film in terms of resolution, density, dynamic range, contrast, grain, and color? Would ECN-2 film's emulsion even come off with this method, or would that be another potential problem introduced by this workflow?Would the result even be predictable, or is this method so old and unexplored with the new VISION3 stocks that results will end up without a clear pattern of cause and effect? If most people on this page advise me against developing ECN-2 film with the ECN-1 solution then I probably won't take this experiment much further. But I would love to hear your favorite method of cross processing ECN-2 film and what kind of results it ends up having on each VISION3 stock as I am interested in learning more about it. Thank you!

I shoot with expired film quite a lot. As a matter of fact, I would say that it's my go to. My favorite stock I've ever shot with is hands down Kodak EXR 5245 50D. I have lately realized, however, that there are a few realities about shooting on expired that I need to come to terms with quickly. It’s unreliable, it’s in short supply, it’s going extinct, and no professional production wants their investment shot on expired film. I need to move on, but frankly, I have always had a visual distaste for VISION3. I want to further pursue something I've only ever experimented with but never fully committed to in the past: emulating the photochemical characteristics of older Eastman fine grain film stocks by experimenting with exposure, density, and processing using modern Kodak film. For reference, I most often shoot on 2-Perf Techniscope with the original line of Basuch & Lomb Baltar lenses dated at the 1940s. The two Eastmancolor stocks I am most interested in trying to emulate are ECN 5248 25T (1952-1959) and ECN 5250 50T (1959-1962). About a year ago I did a short experiment on 35mm with Baltar lenses where I shot a few short reels of footage on VISION3 500T using ND filters in direct sunlight outside and had them exposed and processed in different ways. I then had them scanned in 12-bit HDR and brought them into DaVinci to level out all the footage and see how my end products differed. The four types of footage I got were underexposed one stop and developed at box speed, underexposed two stops and developed at box speed, exposed at box speed and underdeveloped one stop, and exposed at box speed and underdeveloped two stops. After leveling out all my footage in Resolve, I was extremely disappointed in the results. Once normalized with HDR tools in DaVinci, all the underdeveloped footage looked nearly identical to a standard exposure and development. And the underexposed footage just had crushed blacks with very little discernable differences other than that. I considered it a failed endeavor and steered clear of these kinds of experiments again after that. Top visual inspirations: 5248: Rear Window (1954) The Ten Commandments (1956) Vertigo (1958) Ben-Hur (1959) Rio Bravo (1959) 5250: Spartacus (1960) The Magnificent Seven (1960) West Side Story (1961) Lawrence of Arabia (1962) It’s a Mad Mad Mad Mad World (1963) Assuming that the 4k and 1080p blu-rays of the previous film were scanned from the negatives themselves and not the print, I will take it that what I've seen is a quality representation of the stocks in question. My eyes often roll when people talk about footage looking "vintage" "old" or "film-like". Mostly because this could refer to over a dozen different visual aspects in one's footage, and what invokes the feeling of "filmlike" to one person may differ from another. For the sake of this experiment let’s ignore aspects such as lens choice, format size, granularity, lighting contrast, production design, and (for the most part) color scheme. Let’s instead talk about the photochemical qualities of the negative itself. I mostly associate the Eastmancolor look from the mid 50s to the early 60s with neutral to muted highlights, rich and deep blacks, with the density and dynamic range that was available with those stocks at the time. I'm young and an amateur in this field, so I don't understand film on a more in-depth level like so many others hear. But firstly, I'm curious to know what the distinction between film density and dynamic range is, cause I can't quite make heads or tails of it. I am hoping someone with lots of (or any) experience with celluloid, the photochemical process, and the visual evolution of film over the decades can chime and and possibly steer my ventures in the right direction. THE 2383 QUESTION: Small update. During my writing of this post a friend of mine found an interesting video and vimeo and shared it with me. He suggested it as a possibility for me to shoot with 2383 in camera with lots of sunlight and that if developed using ECN-2 and given a simple color correction, the end result may be something close to what I am after. It is difficult for me to discern whether what I like so much about this clip is due to the 2383 stock or if it is just the hard tungsten lighting. I don’t currently have the time or funds to properly run a test myself but I’m putting some consideration into shooting some footage with 2383 in camera rated at 6 ASA in the cloudless sunlight and having it cross-processed using ECN-2. I can get a good 12-bit HDR scan and see if what I’m left with retains the photochemical qualities I have in mind. This clip does remind me very much of the 5250 stock—more so than most other emulations of vintage film do. But as I said, it could just be the hard tungsten lighting. I'm not certain.

Kodak Ad 1943 Kodak Archive - DDTJRAC An early rare-element aerial lens by Kodak. I think the glass was radioactive, but not sure. Were there any cine' lenses made with radioactive glass? I was going to post it in Off-Topic, but have not been able to post or view that section for a few days now. <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

DDTJRAC - Click to View <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

I've got a few photography related 16mm films in the Archive. One is a fantastic 16mm salesman's reel on flash photography. (non-Kodak.) This one on paper looks interesting. Hopefully it has some of the paper coating production. It will be a long time before it ever gets scanned. You know the story with trying to get a scanner. Some samples from the Kodak paper film... photos: eBay <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

Story of the World's Finest 16mm Movie Camera D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive I've got a ton of books that need to be scanned. Will just put them in this section. Too much work wasting time to see if they get approved to the book section. If they want, they can just move them or put a dupe there. Vast majority are old and deal with vintage subjects. <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

They didn't approve for book section, so putting up here. 2 Kodak books may be of interest to the cinematographer. JPEG scans only. Kodak Professional B&W Films F-5 D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Kodak Filters For Science & Tech Uses B-3 D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : D. D. Teoli Jr. A. C. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

Interesting Kodak ad from December 1995 https://archive.org/download/kodak-ad-december-1995-d.-d.-teoli-jr.-a.-c./Kodak Ad December 1995 D.D.Teoli Jr. A.C..JPG DDTJRAC

I entered a local Ministry of Culture visual arts competition a week ago…..and I won the ‘video’ category with this piece (originally just intended as a family heirloom). I re-edited the footage processed for me by Cinelab London in DaVinci Resolve. Not many entries from our 33,000 population, so not exactly a Cannes winning equivalent haha but the prize money will be used to shoot something else on my beloved 16mm film. Watch in 2K if you can. The grain is a bit sludgy no thanks to YouTube…..and no I will not be adding ‘award winning cinematographer’ to my legend hahahaha wtf as if

hey all. wanted to share this film cost calculator that I've been working on for a while. www.filmcostcalculator.com Eventually I'd like to add more equations that can list out alternative results to compare various perf options. Also working on a 1000' roll calculator. Hope it helps! Feel free to comment with any notes and ideas.

Kodak (Mexico?) Inkjet Paper Deterioration See yellowing edge of paper compared to white paper. The entire sheet of Kodak paper has yellow blotchiness. The edge is the easiest way to see the yellowing in a photo. If you have a laptop or unbalanced monitor, you may not be able to see the yellowing. This was Kodak's cheapest paper at the time. From what I recall, the paper was made in Mexico. Paper shown here is 10 years old, stored under normal household conditions. It started to show yellowing about 3 to 4 years ago. All of the rest of this Kodak paper shows the same yellowing. It is hard to get a good photo or scan of the yellowing, but it is easily detected by looking at it under 5,000k lighting. A couple of other major photo paper makers also suffered from yellowing of their cheapest brand of inkjet paper. I didn't record the maker's names. I didn't purchase this paper to print on. I didn't purchase this paper to do archival testing. All these papers were purchased to use as interleaf while printing artist books with an inkjet printer. Unless interleaf was used while printing, the pages would transfer freshly printed ink to the page stacked on it. This was a big problem when using matte black ink, but not a problem with gloss black ink. RC gloss or RC semi-gloss inkjet paper worked best as interleaf as it did not accept any ink transference on the RC coated verso of the paper. <><><><> Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Archival CollectionDaniel D. Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film ArchiveDaniel D. Teoli Jr. Advertising ArchiveDaniel D. Teoli Jr. VHS Video ArchiveDaniel D. Teoli Jr. Popular Culture ArchiveDaniel D. Teoli Jr. Audio ArchiveDaniel D. Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography

REAL FILM at film festivals... Kind of makes sense, right? Well, not on the modern "film" festival circuit. Every film festival I have attended or been a part of the last five years (live or online) is primarily about HD. Usually I am the only filmmaker who shoots on film when my films play at a festival, unless the festival is truly specific to ACTUAL FILM, like the United States Super 8 Film and Digital Video Festival. You see how the title of the festival states FILM and digital video...? Recently I attended the 2022 Spring Austin Micro Film Festival. A really cool Festival! I had two experimental films play, WAITING FOR LEGROS and WAITING FOR LEGROS 2: THE EYE OF THE TIGER Both films shot on Super 8. I was surprised to see another film the was shot on film at the festival, and it was really good! I am pleased to announce that my latest short film THE UNMENTIONABLES (16mm, Tri-X 7266) will play at the 2022 Oregon Short Film Festival. I hope to see more films shot on film in the future! Don't give up on it!

Just arrived from B&H today. Project got cancelled so trying to get rid of these ;( $200/ea. Pickup in LA

Hi, we are students looking to buy fresh kodak vision 3 7219 500T one perf (for s16) stock in eastern europe, looking for 12 rolls, but they can be from different batches so all offers welcome. Already found 4 rolls. Thanks, Nojus nojusdra at gmail

Excellent++ condition original ARRI film magazine for Arriflex 16 BL movie camera 500ft 16 mm film single and double perforation, full working condition. In film mag mechanics is serviced, clean and clear inside, outside have small scratchers for using. The price: 150 USD+ shipping New Kodak 16 mm film stock 1 can 400 ft (122m) - 7207 - 250D daylight color film, iso 250. Purchased in Kodak's official embassy in Russia, in 2020. Froze refrigerating storage. The price: 140 USD+ shipping email: schubert@ngs.ru Worldwide shipping.

Hi all, Can't remember from where, but I've heard of the ability to shoot on print stock just as one would on regular motion picture stock, with the idea of having a very punchy and contrasty look. Does anyone have experience with this? Looking at the Kodak catalog, it seems print stock primarily comes in 2,000' rolls, which would make the process of downspooling a bit tedious...

Hello All, I just completed a new short film shot on 16MM Kodak film via an Arri SR3 HS. I wrote and directed this fun little horror short, and my producing partner, and friend, Evan Samaras did the cinematography (say hi in the comments, Evan). Not only did Evan and I work behind the camera, but also in front of it. The short features only two characters played by us. Due to COVID-19, we wanted to make something small with a minimal, to non-existent, cast and crew. We have submitted the film to some festivals so, for the time being, it is only up privately with a password on our Vimeo page. The link and password are below, for your viewing pleasure. Please let me know your thoughts and critiques. Anything feedback would be greatly appreciated. Password: SRF2020 Thank you all in advance! Keep shooting!

Bought eight 400ft rolls of 16mm double-x about nine months ago directly from Kodak for a shoot that was cancelled due to covid. It's been in a refrigerator since then, so should be just about as good as new. Prefer to sell it all, but happy to sell in parts as well. Located in LA, so local pickup/drop-off preferred but can ship if paid for. Looking for 130/roll, but open to offers.

Hi, Does anyone knows how to expose this film in the two configuration mentionned ? is it possible to have good result in low light by pushing in development ? (any experience with that ?) I am opened to any tips regarding reversal film treatment as a 1st AC (conservation, use and elese ...) For upcoming projects, i am wondering how it would look like. The first one is a low light / hangar / industrial environment with light coming from a dancefloor with 5 people on it (the aim would be to have color effect / aberration and dynamism like in the 'domino' movie, the dancefloor lights would help accomplishing this nighclub ambiance) The second one is more of a natural ambiance in bright daylight with characters in the frame running on a road and other narratives sequences in the city ... Thanks in advance ! cheers

Hey everyone, I'm looking for old, expired 400' rolls of 16mm that I can use to practice loading. I'm planning to start shooting 16mm more seriously and don't want to have to worry about potentially wasting brand new film while I familiarize myself with the process. Thanks!

Hi to all, I am seeking for example of filter use on 16 mm. It can go from glimmer, black promised to effect filters like stars and else (ideally from footages, test or existing movies) Shooting soon on aaton xtr, zeiss 12 mm + zeiss zoom 20-120 + eventually 7219. A dance performance in a studio with natural light , about T'4 coming from outside with top windows. Thanks in advance

Hey everyone, Like most in this forum I'm a hardcore film nut, and like to learn more every day, to understand the medium and improve. Now with the resurge of 65 film for Kodak, and people ramping up hand rolling short ends into their cameras, I was curious to know what companies that actually made 65 mm film. Kodak still does, but did Fuji ever venture into the IMAX / 65mm size? Were there other options? And also, has anyone ever made a black/white 65 mm stock? (clearly a VERY specific look but...) C

Arriflex 435 ES - 4-perf, IVS video assist PAL, FEM (functionality expansion module), TimeCode module, Arriglow module - Base plate BP-8 + dovetail plate + 19mm rods long, short 3x 400ft magazine + case 1x 400ft magazine (35-III model) 3x 200ft magazine + case finder extension FE-3 finder extension FE-5 ground glass + arriglow: - super35 2,35 - super35 1,85 - super35 silent gate 1,33 - normal35 2,35 - normal35 1,85 - normal35 1,33 P+S Technik uRC - remote control for speed ramps Video-top 100% + SCA-2 (for steadicam low-mount) EasyLOOK video-assist system - digital system for recording and playback - generates Quicktime files on HDD - wireless option Transvideo TITAN transmitter + receiver set for analog SD wireless video Transvideo Rainbow II 6,5” monitor - bright PAL monitor - anamorphic desqueze support PHOTOS: https://photos.app.goo.gl/xaJqzid9JwCFyyxY8 Camera is located in Bratislava, Slovak Republic, EU Shipping within European Union will cost €550 Shipping outside EU is not possible at the moment. In case of personal pickup, I can supply old Kodak film stock (10 rolls) for free. Payment via PayPal, incl. buyer´s protection.

Hi all....got back the 400ft of footage from Cinelab London for the personal project I'm shooting on my father - an athlete, still at nearly 82 years of age.....this is a personal project and family heirloom.....so Im putting my hands in my pocket and going for it....

Hey everyone, I'm getting ready for a film challenge where our entire short will be made on a single 100 ft reel of Kodak 7219 and shot on a Krasnogorsk-3. In preparation for the shoot I decided to do a lens test with the stock Meteor 5-1 lens on my original Blackmagic Pocket Camera. Surprisingly though, my footage all seemed to be about a stop under exposed. I know that the aperture of a lens doesn't always let in as much light as it should and that T-stops are supposed to correct for this, right? So is this the case here? Have those of you that use the Krasnogorsk-3 encountered this problem? Does this mean that when shooting I should meter for 250 instead 500 to get proper exposure? Any thoughts?