Thomas Cousin Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) hello, sometimes, reading this forum or the american cinematographer, i can't really figure out what are the equivalents here, in terms of tools. what exactly is "tracing paper" ? is it like "silk paper" ? another thing. i very often read about muslin or bleached muslin. but it seems that it's not (very) used here in france. does it have another name here ? is it the same diffusion material that you found on 12'x12' frame ? like "spi" or "tulle" ? thank you. thomas Edited February 12, 2006 by Thomas Cousin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted February 12, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted February 12, 2006 hello, sometimes, reading this forum or the american cinematographer, i can't really figure out what are the equivalents here, in terms of tools. what exactly is "tracing paper" ? is it like "silk paper" ? another thing. i very often read about muslin or bleached muslin. but it seems that it's not (very) used here in france. does it have another name here ? is it the same diffusion material that you found on 12'x12' frame ? like "spi" or "tulle" ? thank you. thomas Well, not knowing French, it's hard to say what those terms mean either. "Tulle" (here) is sort of a netting like in bridal veil, so I'm guessing it's what we call a "scrim" -- not for diffusion, but to darken a light. Tracing paper is often called "1000H paper" here (which is a vellum-like material a little thicker than real tracing paper.) Tracing paper is just a really thin partially-transparent paper used in drawing to trace over the drawing underneath the paper. Muslin is just a type of cotton cloth, a thin plain-weave cloth used in some bedsheets and shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Greg Gross Posted February 12, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted February 12, 2006 I thought every cinematographer could speak french. La Nuit americaine Day for Night Greg Gross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Laurent Andrieux Posted February 12, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted February 12, 2006 Tracing paper is white diffusion, to me. Muslin would be "tarlatanne", I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Cousin Posted February 12, 2006 Author Share Posted February 12, 2006 ok thanks, So i understand what is "tracing paper", the same kind of diffusion material that 216,250 for example, but the kind you can buy at regular store. and "tulle", yes , as in the USA , it's the same kind of veil as you talked about, david, here in france. just doing a little research, i think i have the french equivalent for muslin, it is maybe called here "cotton gratté". i can find it at rental houses, for mounting on frames.i think it's that. but contrary to north america and maybe england, i don't think this kind of material is often used here. it seems strange to me as you seem to use a lot of this for your shooting there. and it's very useful. maybe, just a matter of culture and taste. and laurent, i think "tarlatanne" is quite different from muslin. by the way, merci pour tout. thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted February 12, 2006 Premium Member Share Posted February 12, 2006 Yes, tracing paper (1000H paper) acts similarly to 216, except that it is paper and thus disposable and cheaper. I use paper to cover windows that I want to blow-out with light, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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