K Borowski Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I have no problem with emotions flaring, outbursts, etc. I work in two high-pressure environments right now, so it's not as if I can't handle stress. I won't say that I handle stress WELL, but I handle it. . . However, if I have to sit back and put UP with that bullshit, unless I'm the lowest man on the ladder, I don't think Hollywood and I will get along too well. I mean, couldn't the DoP or the 1st AD have said SOMETHING to calm things down instead of just sitting back and letting all hell break loose? Sure, the guy is everyone's boss, but if he has dictatorial power and infallibility even when he is clearly throwing a temper tantrum, I think posting the video tap tape of the incident is a pretty lenient response from the crew involved. I guess it is true that this is still unconfirmed. THe resolution of the clip is so low that, at least visually, as I don't know any of the players involved's voices by heart, it could have been anyone staging that. But why would they have? If this is a reenactment or a stunt by anyone other than the crew itself, it is very well done and convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cangi Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) I have no problem with emotions flaring, outbursts, etc. I work in two high-pressure environments right now, so it's not as if I can't handle stress. I won't say that I handle stress WELL, but I handle it. . . However, if I have to sit back and put UP with that bullshit, unless I'm the lowest man on the ladder, I don't think Hollywood and I will get along too well. I mean, couldn't the DoP or the 1st AD have said SOMETHING to calm things down instead of just sitting back and letting all hell break loose? Sure, the guy is everyone's boss, but if he has dictatorial power and infallibility even when he is clearly throwing a temper tantrum, I think posting the video tap tape of the incident is a pretty lenient response from the crew involved. I guess it is true that this is still unconfirmed. THe resolution of the clip is so low that, at least visually, as I don't know any of the players involved's voices by heart, it could have been anyone staging that. But why would they have? If this is a reenactment or a stunt by anyone other than the crew itself, it is very well done and convincing. What distinguishes this from an innocuous tantrum are two things. The first, although still just a word, was his publicly referring to Ms. Tomlim as a c-nt. That was a demonstration of abject disrespect for a member of his cast. The second, which clearly crossed the line, was his physical display of anger. Tossing objects, such as lights, around the set subjected his cast members to possible, physical injury. I am surprised that this idiot hasn't has his ass kicked more often. Edited April 5, 2007 by Ken Cangi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Max Jacoby Posted April 5, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted April 5, 2007 The question that I've been asking myself is that in case there are interviews and/or a making-of on the dvd of the film, will they include the usual backslapping and 'he was such a pleasure to work with'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Brereton Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 It seems that it's not that unusual. Ed Zwick & Jan de Bont are both apparently prone to similar behaviour. There's no excuse - if you have to lose it, do it behind closed doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 What distinguishes this from an innocuous tantrum are two things. The first, although still just a word, was his publicly referring to Ms. Tomlim as a c-nt. That was a demonstration of abject disrespect for a member of his cast. The second, which clearly crossed the line, was his physical display of anger. Tossing objects, such as lights, around the set subjected his cast members to possible, physical injury. I am surprised that this idiot hasn't has his ass kicked more often. Far worse, when he tossed objects right at the assistant huddled in fear on the floor. Way out of line. Someone should have kicked his ass, literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted April 9, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted April 9, 2007 I mean, couldn't the DoP or the 1st AD have said SOMETHING to calm things down instead of just sitting back and letting all hell break loose? I guess it is true that this is still unconfirmed. I think the fact that no one tried to get in the middle of it and stop it is a good indication that this was very common behavior on that set. The other actors didn't even seem that concerned about it until Russell ran onto set going nuts. I think the crew probably had a good feeling that if they tried to stop the tantrum they would be fired. So unless they were going to quit anyway, it probably wasn't the best move to get in the middle of it. Unconfirmed? It would be a pretty big stretch to try to convince anyone that this was a setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Cangi Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 (edited) It would be a pretty big stretch to try to convince anyone that this was a setup. I agree. My first question in situations like this is: Find the motive. I just can't see any value - publicity or otherwise - in releasing material like this. The only thing that would make sense is that this was a tactic for provoking a certain emotional mood among the cast members and that the footage was never meant to leave the set. Edited April 9, 2007 by Ken Cangi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted May 29, 2007 Share Posted May 29, 2007 Both as bad as each other. Too bigger ego's for one set. And as for Lily Tomlin attacking Dustin Hoffman... what was she thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lowe Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 O'Russel's behavior is a total disgrace in that video, IMO. What a spoiled, whiny little jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Bays Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 And That's the Truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niki Mundo Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I'm don't think he's a-hole. I found the whole thing quite exciting. Don't take poop from actors, that's what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Ray Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Here's a clip of Judd Apatow and Michael Cera making fun of David O. Russell. I thought this was real the first time I saw it! http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/4882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Brad Grimmett Posted September 10, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted September 10, 2007 I'm don't think he's a-hole. I found the whole thing quite exciting. Don't take poop from actors, that's what I say. Yes, it's always good directing when you're calling your lead actress a bitch and trashing your sets. It's both professional and mature and the studios love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted September 11, 2007 Premium Member Share Posted September 11, 2007 That is ridiculous and easily, if it is real, the least professional thing I have ever seen on a set. That includes student films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes, it's always good directing when you're calling your lead actress a bitch and trashing your sets. It's both professional and mature and the studios love it! Yes Brad you are 100% correct, I could not agree more. There is a difference between being a director that is a push over and one that is an idiot. Of course you have to be firm at times as a director, going ballistic, un-professional. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Bowerbank Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 There's a really interesting interview with Russell, Tomlin and Hoffman on Charlie Rose posted on YouTube. At times she praises him, and there is still a mutual respect it seems, but on occasion Russell and Tomlin exchange what seem to be some serious FU looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freya Black Posted September 15, 2007 Share Posted September 15, 2007 I think the fact that no one tried to get in the middle of it and stop it is a good indication that this was very common behavior on that set. The other actors didn't even seem that concerned about it until Russell ran onto set going nuts. I think the crew probably had a good feeling that if they tried to stop the tantrum they would be fired. So unless they were going to quit anyway, it probably wasn't the best move to get in the middle of it. Unconfirmed? It would be a pretty big stretch to try to convince anyone that this was a setup. Who knows maybe they tried to stop things before and it didn't work out, but the thing that impresses me about all this, is that the crew clearly didn't stand there and do nothing, someone was clearly getting it all on tape, and whoever it was they have my respect because so often in life people know what they are involved with is very bad and they do nothing, perhaps because they are worried about their careers or perhaps because they just don't want to get involved because they won't get anything out of it. They didn't do nothing, they stood there, let it all happen and got it all on tape, probably at some potential risk to their career as has been indicated. Good luck to them I say! People get the society they deserve. Now that it's out there for all to see, including the participants, perhaps there will be less abusivenes and bullying in future films. love Freya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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