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This is kind of a cop-out, but you have to understand- if you're not an authorized distributor/retailer, then you'll only be able to sell it for whatever someone will pay for it.

It's like an auction, you have what the appraiser tells you it might sell something for and what someone will actually pay for it at an auction. Different factors are too numerous to consider for.

But I'd guess maybe half retail would be a safe sticker price. ;)

Yeh, I think it retails at about 600 (now that I've looked at it) on the Adobe web site. I was thinking about starting the bid at £149, and hopefully it should rise to about £250. (With any luck)

 

But anyway yeh, tnx, I best get off that subject now.

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I would just like to note,

 

>>Professional edition is designed to run servers,

 

>>they leave more ports open,

 

Which can be closed manually,

 

>>and run more services.

 

Which can be stopped manually. There are good tutorials on the web that tell you which ports and/or services you can stop, depending on what you're doing. E.g., if you're not networking in any way, there are something like 8 or 9 services you can disable without problem.

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I would just like to note,

 

>>Professional edition is designed to run servers,

 

>>they leave more ports open,

 

Which can be closed manually,

 

>>and run more services.

 

Which can be stopped manually. There are good tutorials on the web that tell you which ports and/or services you can stop, depending on what you're doing. E.g., if you're not networking in any way, there are something like 8 or 9 services you can disable without problem.

Yeh true. But maybe it's a lot of hassle that someone might not want, plus you are paying extra for it. You?re paying extra for features that you?re only going to switch off. But then again there are other features (i.e. multiple processors) that someone is willing to pay extra even though they are getting a load of stuff they don't want with it.

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Dan,

Just suck it up, pro is simply a better OS- so what you get stuff you'll never use! Just be glad you have options with windows! MacOS X is that, just that, there's no pro, there's no home.

Thing is, that's exactly what I used to think. But after to going to many computer fairs, speaking to people about it, they all said that Pro was unnecessary unless there are particular features you need.

 

I was told that pro leaves more ports open, and runs more services that will slow the system and make it more vulnerable.

 

So my opinion on what OS to get was completely changed from then on.

 

Professional comes with more features, sure, but it costs more and takes more system resources to run it. So unless you are in need of those features, just get Home! That's my opinion on it, aswell as many other tech bods at computer fairs.

 

As to the MAC thingy. I've never really taken to MAC, mainly because I've never had a proper look into them. I had a go at one once, and never really liked it. Much too user friendly, I like to have a bit more control. I'm sure there?s ways you can override the user friendly crap, but I don't know about it, I have no need to, never bought an Apple MAC.

 

10 years experience with Windows, not so easy to swap over I find.

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For those of us in the NLE business, the few extra options that windows gives you does not eat up a ton of resources. I'd expect most everyone that runs winxp runs it on a 2+ghz machine with a gig or so of ram. I can't believe that would seriously lower your system performance.

If all those extra processes agitate you, then turn them off, you say you want the control over your machine, but you're too lazy to do anything about it when you have the options. You'd rather they create a version of windows that caters to your exact needs.

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For those of us in the NLE business, the few extra options that windows gives you does not eat up a ton of resources. I'd expect most everyone that runs winxp runs it on a 2+ghz machine with a gig or so of ram. I can't believe that would seriously lower your system performance.

If all those extra processes agitate you, then turn them off, you say you want the control over your machine, but you're too lazy to do anything about it when you have the options. You'd rather they create a version of windows that caters to your exact needs.

My point is why buy XP Professional, and pay the extra, when you don't even need the features. Theres no point, unless of course you do need the extra features.

 

You could just buy Home edition, for cheaper, and not have to even worry about extra services running.

 

I can't believe that would seriously lower your system performance.

I'm not sure what they take up exactly, but I know they aren't doing the system any favours. When editing I always want the maximum processing power available, which is understandable.

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My point is why buy XP Professional, and pay the extra, when you don't even need the features.

Unless you need multiple monitor and multiple processor support- which I would guess most NLE users would want.

Anyway, it's not a matter of how much is available, it's a matter of how much is going to be used. There's always background services running, it's a matter of having an extra 800k physical memory back.

If you REALLY want all available resources, I would recommend not having any antivirus, no special desktop themes, no itunes(or player of choice), no kazaa, no instant messaging, and definitely NO INTERNET!

 

I'm not trying to bust on you, but system services are such a SMALL part of the overall use of your resources, you'd be better off dumping "optional" programs that isn't required to run your editing software.

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I agree. I can't see the background services taking up a huge amount. And getting rid of other programs is another good start. Although I'd never get rid of the antivirus, a lot of the time corrupted files can be fixed, but there are ones out there that will corrupt your files beyond repair.

 

I've only ever had a virus once, but I learnt from my mistake of not having an anti-virus.

 

Trouble is that was about 5 years ago, and I didn't really have the know how on fixing it. But the funny thing is the bastard that made it was caught later on, and he was stuck in Brixton Prison, right where my Dad works.. heheh (Yeh thas it Dad, do those cuffs nice and tight now..)

 

no kazaa

you crasy! How could I ever live without it..

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What I did to make my editing machine the fastest I could make it was to remove any type of outside connection to the computer.So all I had on it was the OS, essential software, and my editing program.

(If you were paying attention earlier would would have heard my dissortation on surfing the internet fragmenting your harddrive and thus, slower seek times)

Then I put together a media machine that I download and surf from. This setup is basically is foolproof, you can't get viruses on a machine that you never surf or download from- so running antivirus would be a waste of system resources.

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you can't get viruses on a machine that you never surf or download from

That isn't true, it only has to be transferred by something offline. However unlikely. But I HAVE seen it happen.

 

Anyway for many of us dedicating an entire system just isn't practical. The system I'm running is about the only powerful one in the house, I could never do without other software. Maybe it's different in your case I don't know.

 

Anyway this issue is starting to thin. The fact is don't buy professional edition unless your in need of it's extra features.

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Hello, I've decided to build my own work staion for editing video as in short films, and video for broadcast, etc. I need to know what kind of system I need - size of hard drive, etc.etc.

 

I wonder if the original poster feels his question has been answered?

 

Maybe the answer is there are so many solutions to this there is no straight answer. Everyone has a certain system that works for them.

 

I edit my show reels on

 

Mac G5

dual 2.5 Ghz

4 GB of Ram

 

Black Magic Deck Link Card

 

Final Cut Pro HD

 

Afer Effects for a little color tweeking

 

DVD Studio PRO

 

Apple Motion and Photoshop for DVD graphics

 

Apple Cinema Display

 

Since everything is made by or certified by Apple it all works together effortlessly.

 

I don't worry so much about color matching, because my show reel looks slightly differently on every monitor its shown on.

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I wonder if the original poster feels his question has been answered?

You'd be suprised at what the topics turn into.

 

Maybe the answer is there are so many solutions to this there is no straight answer

Well, there are many combinations.

 

Ok Craig, here's a damn good setup, at a realistic price.

 

 

Pentium 4 3.2GHz Hyper-threading.

 

1024 MB's of DDR RAM. (Highest speed available)

 

Nvidea Geforce FX 5200 (128 MB Memory)

 

1 X 50 GB SATA Hard Drive

1 X 120 GB SATA Hard Drive

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I don't worry so much about color matching, because my show reel looks slightly differently on every monitor its shown on.

If you correctly calibrate your monitor and color correct to that it should look decent on any monitor- but if shots from the same project aren't consistent, people will think you don't know how to match shots/coloring, no matter how bad their viewer is. For a demo/show reel it doesn't matter if this project and this project over here match, but the replication of styles will be one thing people DO notice.

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What you need is a monitor that is completely neutral, no enhancements or extra colourings.

 

In music production for instance. Studios don't use the average sound systems you may find, because they colour the signal. That's why they need specialist sound monitors and head phones to get a perfect neutral sound.

 

Anyway as Phil mentioned earlier on, when people are paying you it has to be right. Ok if it's for you own personal films then use whatever the hell you want, no ones going to tell you off but you.

 

Actually I thought I might bring this up. Personally I'd use multiple monitors, TFT as my main display, and then a TV as a second. Because as we all know TFT's are easy on the eye, and aren't pumping out masses of radiation. But you still have the TV wired up so you can still get an accurate preview.

 

Just my opinion. Take it or leave it.

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