anroop mri Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hello everybody,can u please tell me the difference between 8mm,16mm,35mm and 65mm cameras and what do they do?and can u also please tell me visually wht difference it makes by usage of different formats,and if am shooting for the first time on film which format is best for me thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Patrick OHara Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Hello everybody,can u please tell me the difference between 8mm,16mm,35mm and 65mm cameras and what do they do?and can u also please tell me visually wht difference it makes by usage of different formats,and if am shooting for the first time on film which format is best for me thank you Whoa. You may have better luck elsewhere in the forum... unless you're looking to pay for answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroop mri Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thank you for the advice,if u cant answer properly or dont know the answer please do not reply ,these kind of replies wont help anything thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Thank you for the advice,if u cant answer properly or dont know the answer please do not reply ,these kind of replies wont help anythingthank you THAT kind of reply won't get you very far either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroop mri Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 thank you the great psychic,please read your future first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted October 17, 2009 Site Sponsor Share Posted October 17, 2009 15 perf 65mm is the best so you should start with that..... -Rob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anroop mri Posted October 17, 2009 Author Share Posted October 17, 2009 hey thank you very much,u r truly a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted October 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted October 17, 2009 hey thank you very much,u r truly a genius You won't get many answers here if you're just going to be a smartass. You listed the film gauges in order from smallest to largest. That also means you listed them in order from the lowest resolution and cheapest to the greatest resolution and most expensive. 8mm and super 8 were never professional formats so "real" production cameras and accessories don't really exist. They're your Dad's home movie camera. 16mm and super 16 were amateur formats that became useful professional formats in the 60s. Now there are fine cameras made for S16 and it has a very convenient resolution to transfer to HD. 35mm and 65mm are and have always been professional formats. 35mm is the standard for most movie production. 65mm isn't used all that much. It has loads of resolution and is gorgeous, but very few productions are willing to pay for it. If you're shooting for the first time, I would suggest you get comfortable shooting film stills. That will teach you a lot of the basics that are common to both stills and motion pictures. After that (or if you're already well versed in shooting stills), 8mm is a nice format to experiment with. Making a film on 16mm and beyond get too expensive for individuals who aren't independently wealthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Matthew W. Phillips Posted October 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted October 17, 2009 8mm and super 8 were never professional formats so "real" production cameras and accessories don't really exist. They're your Dad's home movie camera. Chris, I normally don't argue with you because there isn't much point really but this time I'm going to get involved. Check up about the Beaulieu 9008 Pro 16:9. If this isn't a professional camera, I don't know what is. I GUARANTEE that your dad didn't have this just lying around for home movies. At the price of this thing, it is more than most 16mm film school cameras (K3, CP-16, Bolex R5, etc.) It has everything I would assume a pro could use...variable frame rates, interchangable lens mount, crystal sync, many accessories available for it, even a Beaulieu 200' film magazine that can mount to it which allows you to shoot 10 minutes @ 24fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted October 17, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted October 17, 2009 Hello everybody,can u please tell me the difference between 8mm,16mm,35mm and 65mm cameras and what do they do?and can u also please tell me visually wht difference it makes by usage of different formats,and if am shooting for the first time on film which format is best for me thank you In general, the larger the film format, the more detailed and finer-grained the image is. The smaller the format is, the softer and grainier it tends to be. Larger formats tend to be more expensive to shoot as well. If you are a first-time shooter, you'll probably be using a smaller, cheaper format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Chris Keth Posted October 18, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted October 18, 2009 Chris, I normally don't argue with you because there isn't much point really but this time I'm going to get involved. Check up about the Beaulieu 9008 Pro 16:9. If this isn't a professional camera, I don't know what is. I GUARANTEE that your dad didn't have this just lying around for home movies. At the price of this thing, it is more than most 16mm film school cameras (K3, CP-16, Bolex R5, etc.) It has everything I would assume a pro could use...variable frame rates, interchangable lens mount, crystal sync, many accessories available for it, even a Beaulieu 200' film magazine that can mount to it which allows you to shoot 10 minutes @ 24fps. I stand corrected. I was under the impression that about the best you could expect out of a super 8 camera was manual exposure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin jackman Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 see guys, buy answering the questions you are encouraging the behaviour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Case Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 If this isn't a professional camera, I don't know what is. I'm not sure what "professional means here: after all, 16mm was designed as an amateur format, though it's been used for TV work and much else besides for half a century. But while we are on the subject of professional, I notice this thread was started by anroop mri Group: Basic Members Posts: 3 Joined: 25-September 09 Member No.: 43197 Director of Photography Can anyone say what qualifies anyone to be called a "Director of Photography"? This is a serious question, not a smartarse criticism (well, mostly :blink: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Matthew W. Phillips Posted October 18, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted October 18, 2009 I'm not sure what "professional means here: after all, 16mm was designed as an amateur format, though it's been used for TV work and much else besides for half a century. I'm not sure it even matters what professional means as that sounds like an elitist term used to discourage those without money or access to "top notch" gear. I'm sure that some sort of money making (which is the point of professional after all, isn't it?) product has been made on anything from Super 8 - 65mm film and even 8mm video too I'm sure. Therefore, all formats have the potential to be professional even if not widely in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Borowski Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) I'm not sure it even matters what professional means as that sounds like an elitist term used to discourage those without money or access to "top notch" gear. I always think of it more along the terms of "If you aren't serious, then don't bother showing up." God knows we've all met our fair share of delusional crazies in this industry <_< You are right about 8mm video making money. Wasn't that what all the color "Blair Witch" was shot on? Speaking of that film, looks like this new "Paranormal Activity" or whatever its called is basically another reincarnation of the same thing. But money is definitely a part of making a movie. Even $15,000 (sorry, I am not in the mood to convert today, as the USD is doing depressingly bad against the Euro and £) is a significant amount of money, which is what this latest "Blair Witch" knock-off cost. I am sure it is possible to make a movie for $500, but I'd say, in general, the likelihood of commercial success is inversely proportional to your budget. So the less money your project has, the more fantastic a script and incredible a cast you are going to need. As depressing as it is to say this, good cinematography seems like it can only help your movie's trailer and, as a result, its opening week. Edited October 19, 2009 by Karl Borowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Matthew W. Phillips Posted October 19, 2009 Premium Member Share Posted October 19, 2009 I am sure it is possible to make a movie for $500, but I'd say, in general, the likelihood of commercial success is inversely proportional to your budget. So the less money your project has, the more fantastic a script and incredible a cast you are going to need. As depressing as it is to say this, good cinematography seems like it can only help your movie's trailer and, as a result, its opening week. I wasn't aware that Blair Witch had good acting? :o Overall though, you're right. Money helps to cover up imperfections. A cheap movie has to be perfect, normally, for commericial success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Jensen Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Thank you for the advice,if u cant answer properly or dont know the answer please do not reply ,these kind of replies wont help anythingthank you These guys are just yanking your chain. It's all the same, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted October 20, 2009 Site Sponsor Share Posted October 20, 2009 hey thank you very much,u r truly a genius At least smart enough to know to post my questions in the "Questions and Answers" section of the site and not the "Classifieds" or "Buy and Sell things" section.... If that is what passes for genius these days then I guess I'll take it, kind of sad though. -Rob- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keneu Luca Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 (edited) This is one of the most bizarre and hilarious threads ive ever read on this site. Gives me an idea: such absurd threads should be saved and categorized as "The Ridiculous thread Hall-Of-Fame Forum" Edited November 30, 2009 by Keneu Luca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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