Edward P. Davee Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward P. Davee Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Here are some stills. This film was shot on 7212, bleach bypassed. Desaturated in post. Shot on an Eclair ACL II with adapted Zeiss SLR lenses. ------------------ epdavee.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Auner aac Posted January 22, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi Edward, nice stuff! Was the out-of-focus effect on the shot with the house done with vaseline on the lens? And why didn't you shoot on true B&W stock? Cheers, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 7212 is a great stock, why did you choose it over 7231 or 7265. what was the film scanned on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward P. Davee Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi Edward,nice stuff! Was the out-of-focus effect on the shot with the house done with vaseline on the lens? And why didn't you shoot on true B&W stock? Cheers, Dave Thanks Dave. The lens effect is from a lens baby 2.0 for a contax yashica mount. My D.P. and I wanted to use it in a more subtle way than the lens baby is normally used. This still is a little more "extreme", but since this particular lens baby was made for 35mm camera's it had a more subtle effect for a 16mm camera. For most of our uses, we just wanted it for a slight blurring around the edges of the frame for a more old time photography look. I like the way it looks with grainy film, personally. I wanted black and white but I had several indoor shots in the film that were supposed to appear as lit by candles and oil lamps. I wanted the option of a higher speed but I wasn't into the look of tri-x for the film. I wanted a grittiness, but I wanted a nice sharp clean image that would translate well to big screen projection. I did a test with 7212 bleach bypassed with a one stop underexposure and loved the way it looked desaturated. It was just the look I had hoped for. With the 1 stop under exposing, I could work at 200ASA and If needed, go with 7217 under 1 for a 400ASA. We ended up shooting only one roll of 7217, but the option was always there, which it would have not been with black and white stock. I like the fact that the bleach bypass retains the silver grain. When desaturated, I think it resembles actual black and white stock more than normal color neg desaturated, which seemed too smooth to me in my tests. I thought the B.B. 7212 had a very nice grain that, for me, was pleasing more to the eye than black and white 16mm stock. Luckily, my D.P. was equally charmed by it. I love black and white stock and probably would have used it if the film were shot in 35mm. I tried some tests with 7231 pushed, but was not happy with the graininess of it. I think the B.B 7212 gave us a nice balance of film speed, sharpness, old film look, and grit. Also, as I mentioned before, the option of a 400ASA with 7217 was always there if needed, with a similar result. My Director of Photography was Scott Ballard. We had a very similar vision for the film and worked well together. It was hard for me to let go of my camera and trust someone else, but I'm glad I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward P. Davee Posted January 22, 2010 Author Share Posted January 22, 2010 7212 is a great stock, why did you choose it over 7231 or 7265. what was the film scanned on? I love black and white reversal and perhaps would have gotten what I wanted from it. I didn't do any tests to find out. I guess I was scared to shoot my first feature on reversal. Maybe that's foolish. I don't know. the film was scanned on a spirit telecine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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