julien doumenjou Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi, I'm working on a short super8 fiction, I used 15 rolls but after editing I think the film will last 6mn. After checking how expensive it is to get super8 film transfered in HD, I decided to do a first hand editing to save money. So I bought a very cheap Viewer Editor, a MINETTE S-4, it works but it's very very dark, do you know a way to fix that? Should I open it and try to clean something like the mirror? Is it made for dark room only ? For information it uses a 6 volts-10 watt bulb, what I have is 12v-10 watt, guess it's alright... Any information's very welcome ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Louis Seguin Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Hi, I'm working on a short super8 fiction, I used 15 rolls but after editing I think the film will last 6mn. After checking how expensive it is to get super8 film transfered in HD, I decided to do a first hand editing to save money. So I bought a very cheap Viewer Editor, a MINETTE S-4, it works but it's very very dark, do you know a way to fix that? Should I open it and try to clean something like the mirror? Is it made for dark room only ? For information it uses a 6 volts-10 watt bulb, what I have is 12v-10 watt, guess it's alright... Any information's very welcome ! Obviously your number one problem is the bulb. You must get the proper bulb; they are not hard to find. It available from multiple sources and I see them on eBay all the time. Cheers, Jean-Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Burke Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I applaud you for doing a physical edit. It is probably the single best lesson a film student can learn, because it make you think about and commit to the edit. Rock on! I second what has already been said about the bulb. There also may be a replacement that is brighter, but I would recommend getting the stock bulb and go from there. Secondly, did you ask your lab what a transfer of footage might cost. Many will cut you a discount since you are using other services, also you are a student, so further discounts can be had because of that. A six minute film with handles will be very cheap to scan, I would recommend getting the very best you can afford when you do. What kind of film did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Blackstock Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I had a similar problem, and discovered replacement bulbs from lighting specialists were very expensive. Then I remembered that many motorcycles are 6v, so for around $2.40 I purchased the correct wattage bulb from a motorcycle shop. it has worked great for the last three years! try doing that, cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julien doumenjou Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 I had a similar problem, and discovered replacement bulbs from lighting specialists were very expensive. Then I remembered that many motorcycles are 6v, so for around $2.40 I purchased the correct wattage bulb from a motorcycle shop. it has worked great for the last three years! try doing that, cheers. Hi, thanks. I already ordered a new bulb from this website http://www.tps-video.com/lampes.php But it's good to know. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julien doumenjou Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 I applaud you for doing a physical edit. It is probably the single best lesson a film student can learn, because it make you think about and commit to the edit. Rock on! I second what has already been said about the bulb. There also may be a replacement that is brighter, but I would recommend getting the stock bulb and go from there. Secondly, did you ask your lab what a transfer of footage might cost. Many will cut you a discount since you are using other services, also you are a student, so further discounts can be had because of that. A six minute film with handles will be very cheap to scan, I would recommend getting the very best you can afford when you do. What kind of film did you use? Hi, thanks for the support. I used Kodachrome 40, Ektachrome 100 and Ektachrome 7240. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bruce Taylor Posted June 29, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted June 29, 2010 Good call on the bulb, running a 12v bulb in a 6v circuit is going to be very dim. I also find that over time the internal optical parts can get pretty dirty or develop a film on them. It is usually easy to remove a panel or two to get in there and clean the optical surfaces with some appropriate lens cleaning material. I can't remember exactly what the Minette viewers looked like, but I do recall that they made the better quality editing tools. I think I still have one of their splicers (all metal!). Be fanatical in keeping the film clean while you're working with it (camera original!). Nothing beats looking at it on a projector. I pulled out some S8 Kodachrome I shot 30 years ago, and projected it on a wall with my Elmo. It looked amazing-- it made me remember why I was such a big fan of the format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member andy oliver Posted June 30, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted June 30, 2010 fyi:- A conversion was once available to convert the standard 6v 10w lamp into IQ lighting, ( 2 pin lamp ), this company may still hold the necessary parts for the conversion http://aavon.com/bristolcine.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessandro Malfatti Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 If it's a possibility I'd recommend you'd trade the viewer for an actual projector, seeing your films projected let's you see it to the last detail, a viewer will certainly give you a worse image than the HD scan. If you're sticking to it, try checking if Wittner Cinetec in Germany has halogen replacement bulbs, they're very affordable and result in a noticeably brighter and clearer picture. You have to check if they're available for your model, though. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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