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Mini35 adpater


Arnaud M. St Martin de Veyran

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Hi Guys,

 

I'm going to shoot a short film as DP with a Canon XL2 and mini35 adapter instead of an XL2 with 24x36 lenses (too long :P ).

 

I have some question about shooting this way :

 

1. Do i need a bridge plate and a sliding base plate if i want to attach a Matte Box as Arri MB16 ? What should i do to get my matte box on with a follow focus ? DO i need rods or the adapter provide rods already and in that case wich size of rods ?

 

2. Can i put a 35mm zoom lense on an 35mm adapter ? It is not to heavy for the mount ? Any particular problems(optic) with doing that ?

 

3. What kind of monitor should i need to juge what i'm doing ?

By the way, while i'm doing the color bar on my monitor, the white have to be pure white or 18% gray ?

 

4. What about shooting hand held with this 35mm adapter ? Do i need a special set up ?

 

Thanks.

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Wow dems alotta questions

 

One

You do need a sliding bridge-plate for the follow-focus rig

And for certain matte-boxes.

If you have a clamp-on matte-box you won't need rods

Last I heard the Arri MB16 isn't a clamp-on matte-box.

 

However I recommend using the sliding base-plate

Because it'll help you balance the camera easier

It tends to get very heavy with the M35-adapter and all the other accessories

 

Two

You can put a zoom on the adapter

But I'd get extra support for the lens--support rods will help

Because the adapter isn't the sturdiest thing around

And I wouldn't recommend hand-held with the zoom on.

 

Three

Get a good production monitor that can be calibrated and adjusted

As for calibrating it, leave the WHITES ALONE!

You adjust the brightness using

the three black bars at the bottom right of the color bars...

There are tips on this forum on how to do it properly

 

Also check this link out

 

http://www.videouniversity.com/tvbars2.htm

 

Four

I recommend using a steadicam

The XL2 with the Mini35 rig tends to get bulky

And handholding is uncomfortable...

You can do it but it'll start to bother you soon enough.

Second the adapter (last I used it a year ago) isn't sturdy enough

It loses calibration quickly especially during handholding.

 

I dunno what others feel about it

But personally I find the whole P+S technik Mini35 adapter

To be very cumbersome and not production ready

And worth too much money and hassel for what it accomplishes.

 

But with that said Good luck

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  • 2 weeks later...

HI !

 

Thanks for all the advices.

 

I'm sorry if i'm a little bit late to answer you but i was far from the web for a while, i was scouting the locations.

 

Anyway, i'm going to get a Sony 9044 color monitor. Is it good enough?

Also, i don't understand how to calibrate my monitor with the color bars. In fact, i'm not getting with the camera the same color bars as the one on the website :

http://www.videouniversity.com/tvbars2.htm

 

In fact, i'm just getting the 18%grey to the black, not the bellow ones...

Do you know what i mean ? What should i do ?

 

Otherwise, i'm already looking on the forum about it.

 

Best regards.

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I dunno what others feel about it

But personally I find the whole P+S technik Mini35 adapter

To be very cumbersome and not production ready

And worth too much money and hassel for what it accomplishes.

 

Rik, I am really interested in your opinion on the real benefits (and cons) of the mini35. The only info source I have found is from the manufacturer.

Has anyone used the mini35 for an actual short or full feature film? And if so, what exactly makes the Mini35 adapter so cumbersome?

 

It it the setup proces? the learning curve?

Does it really produce film like images with 35mm film like focus?

 

I own an XL2 and I am planning to shoot a short film in May. I have been researching the best digital solution for the shoot, and I am contemplating purchasing the mini35, and then renting 35mm film lenses. Any suggestions as to other methods for achieving film like quality from the XL2?

 

Look forward to hearing from you all.

 

N. DeWood

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i'm AC/2nd unit DP on my friend's short next month and he's shooting with an XL-2 w/mini 35 adapter and 35mm zeiss primes. i'll post some stills when i get a chance. the DP said better optics=better image in relation to using 35mm lenses on the XL-2 and he can get an extra two stops of light.

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