Zander Kroon Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 For an upcoming shoot I want to mount several Kino's (bare bulbs) on a wall and use them as practicals. What wiring and sockets would I need for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted October 20, 2010 Premium Member Share Posted October 20, 2010 For an upcoming shoot I want to mount several Kino's (bare bulbs) on a wall and use them as practicals. What wiring and sockets would I need for this? You'd need the Kino ballast, head feaders, etc. - if these are 4' tubes, you can use the stuff from a 4' single bank Kino minus the fixture, just the end caps, harness wires, cables, etc. You still need to be going to a Kino ballast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zander Kroon Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Thanks for the reply David. I should be more specific: I'm renting several 4bank Kino and Single Tube units, with ballast and cables. I want to mount 8 bulbs all around the walls of a small laboratory. The bulbs will be positioned horizontally and spaced apart so I will need more slack in the breakouts than the head cable has to offer. On a shoot I worked the gaffer did something like this by running electric cable out of the feeder cables and then used some sort of fluorescent bulb "quick on" or "add a tap" to power the bulbs. I don't know the names of them and I can't find anything on filmtools or other cine websites when I dig around the electrical sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 You'll want these: http://www.kinoflo.com/Top%20Head%20%20Buttons/Service/Subgroups/Cables/X16-A4/X16-A4.htm These extensions: http://www.kinoflo.com/Top%20Head%20%20Buttons/Service/Subgroups/Cables/X04-12/X04-12.htm or these: http://www.kinoflo.com/Top%20Head%20%20Buttons/Service/Subgroups/Cables/X04-25/X04-25.htm and a bunch of these: http://www.kinoflo.com/Top%20Head%20%20Buttons/Service/Subgroups/Harnesses/HAR-15in-2-3-4ft/HAR-15-2-3-4ft%20.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Spark Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Well if you find the right size of end caps, you can run kino flo tubes from practical fittings, using a standard mains supply with a Fluorescent starter (preferably as powerful a one as possible). The only thing to bare in mind is they won't necessarily be flicker free after this process, as they'll be running of mains (which I believe in the US is 60 hertz...?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD Hartman Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Nothing special about the T-12 style tube end-caps or connectors in a Kino fixture. You could drive the tubes from a standard electronic, hi-frequency ballast, remotely mounted, but you might not get the same lumens out of the tube, as Kino overdrives them which compensates for the inefficiency of a full spectrum, hi-CRI tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted April 3, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 3, 2019 75W ballasts are available; you'd be looking for a ballast intended for 6-foot conventional tubes, which ought to drive a four-foot Kino at design power. It's also possible to wire some dual-36W ballasts to drive Kino tubes (or any tube, really) at double the usual power, which will put it roughly where a Kino ballast would drive it. The Kino tubes are not being overdriven, specifically. It's just that their design power is essentially a notch up from conventional tubes of the same length. They have heavier electrodes to compensate. It is important to get this right, for more reasons than just output. Underdriven fluorescent tubes (including Kino tubes) go purple; overdriven tubes go yellow, to a degree that will cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Phil Rhodes said: Posted October 20, 2010 I know, I know, it happens to me too after a second glass of Sanatogen. Edited April 3, 2019 by Mark Dunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted April 3, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 3, 2019 Was that supposed to be an empty message and an empty quote, or is the forum software being strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Probably me being strange. I see it now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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