Anthony Schilling Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I put my order in for the Retro8 scanner and pretty excited for it. I have 12 rolls of E100D coming back from the lab this week, only 3 more to shoot, and quite a lot of archive footage to transfer. But i'm really looking forward to the next version of the software that can do negative. if i can work with 50, 200, and 500ASA neg film that I can scan at home then hell yeah! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 It's here!!! Now the temp outside just has to get over 10 degrees here in New England so I can actually use it! Â 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose luis villar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Here another recent transfer by ochoypico, Vision3 200t and 500t with 1014 xls. https://vimeo.com/58302232 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Here another recent transfer by ochoypico, Vision3 200t and 500t with 1014 xls. https://vimeo.com/58302232 Â Amazing stuff! You'd think it was 16mm not 8. The 814 and 1014 XL-S models really do have the best optics of any Super 8 other than maybe the Beaulieu c-mount cameras. Great stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose luis villar Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I think those are the most reliable canon cameras s8. I have a 4008 Beaulieu that optics is better in definition, but has not given me nothing but trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Will Montgomery Posted January 30, 2013 Premium Member Share Posted January 30, 2013 The 814 and 1014 XL-S models really do have the best optics of any Super 8 other than maybe the Beaulieu c-mount cameras. Don't forget this camera, the NALCOM FTL; amazing lens on this puppy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heikki Repo Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Just for the record, Wittner is at the moment testing another color reversal film for use in super-8 and 16mm. Should the tests be successful, Wittner will be bring Agfa Aviphot 200D (polyester base) to 16mm 1R, 2R and super-8. Â There's a still from this new filmstock on the cover of the next issue of Schmalfilm http://www.schmalfilm-online.de/news/Neue+Super_8_Filme+kommen/1346 and for the news go to Wittner's news (in German): http://wittner-kinotechnik.de/neu/news2013.php#20130205-1 Â While polyester certainly isn't the base to choose for shooting with high speed 16mm cameras, I wonder if it's more suitable for 8mm work. After all, single-8 material was to my knowledge on polyester base as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Frazer Noakes Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 It's here!!! Now the temp outside just has to get over 10 degrees here in New England so I can actually use it! Â Â Is that Farenheit? Otherwise, just wondering why you would need to wait until the outside temp is above 10 degrees Celcius! It won't be above 10 degrees C here in my part of Sweden until late April! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Baumgarten Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 KODAK's decision to stop all production of their last remaining color reversal filmstock, was a BIG MISTAKE! I don't care what excuses they state, they are all bull. This was afterall, the ONLY remaining Color Reversal film they were manufacturing, and there was and is a sufficient niche market to make it available in the small gauge formats. IF KODAK can justify making Color Negative in Super 8mm, they could've kept making the EKTACHROME 100D since it had just as wide a use market. AND, IF they had only advertised at all, that Super 8mm film was still being made over the past 20+ years, there are many families that would've loved to shoot some movies of their events, even if only a few rolls per year. That extra amount would have added up. Â There's no bones about it, this was a MAJOR blow to the Super 8mm and Regular 8mm and even 16mm filmmaking world. While we still have other filmstocks to use, NOTHING beats the incredible experience of seeing one's footage projected on the big screen. Maybe, after their bankruptcy reorganization, they could be coaxed into introducing a Color Reversal filmstock again, but it would take a millionaire willing to put money into it, regardless if it earned enought back to justify it. This exact same thing happens in other hobbies and pursuits, where there are those that will pay to get something made or keep it going, regardless of cost. I would do it, IF I were wealthy. Â Film will live on as long as there is filmstock to shoot, and perhaps even with what we have left to use. It has nothing at all to do with whether or not some electronic format has higher quality. It's like telling an artist to stop bothering with Water Color paints, Pen & Ink, Charcoal, Oil, Acrylic paints, or even pencils, and start using a computer digital palette. All bullcrap, people will pursue whatever their passion or method of expression will work for them. Â Even if all film ceased tomorrow, there will be those using their frozen caches of film years from now, albeit sparingly, just so they can still indulge in using an analogue film camera and all the associated equipment. Is it worth it? Well, is anything worth it? Is it worth it for somebody to pay $10k or more for an old Ford model A, or any other automobile, or pay more for a restoration??? Who's right is it to judge what flavor icecream one person prefers over another? If you really want to, you can use virtually any camera ever made, with a few limitations of course. Try telling a 9.5mm filmmaker that their format died officially back in 1961 and they should cease their passion. I bet they would bury you in the sea weighed down with tons of now passe video cameras. So, long live Film, as long as it can. If this is your passion, pursue it to whatever length you're able to, and forget what some idiot tells you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophernigel Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Martin , just to say thank you for your words , It was a sad day for film ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve salem Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Thank you Martin - I agree 100% Negative film is not the true super 8 experience. Reversal film is a defining factor in the look of super 8. Praying for a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I shot my last Super-8 in 2001 in Venice. K40/ E160 (which by then had to go to Rocky Mountain). Of course I didn't it was my last at the time, just as I didn't know in 2003 that I'd shot my last frame of film. In Valencia. In 1978 a 50' cartridge cost about as much as a 36-exp slide film. By 1996, it was three times the price. No way am I going from £12/50ft to nearly £35. I'm not interested in video transfer. These things creep up on you. Edited March 16, 2013 by Mark Dunn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Cheng Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 And just as I was about to buy a super 8 projector..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevith Mitchell Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 That 50 D stock looks GREAT. Reminds my of stocks from the 70s. The yellows and warm colors really stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retoxproductions Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I can't believe there are no low cost telecine places here in the Los Angeles area where you can get a cost effective negative transfer. There were a few that did cheap reversal transfers. Any suggestions for students out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose luis villar Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Here is a little test that I filmed with Vision3 50d. This film has almost no grain and very high definition, love it!The film transfer is made in Ochoypico. https://vimeo.com/62358313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Jeremy Cavanagh Posted March 21, 2013 Premium Member Share Posted March 21, 2013 Here is a little test that I filmed with Vision3 50d. This film has almost no grain and very high definition, love it! The film transfer is made in Ochoypico. https://vimeo.com/62358313 Very good, very, very sharp. The only fault is the contrast is slightly low on some shots. Â What camera did you shoot it with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Pierre Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Here is a little test that I filmed with Vision3 50d. This film has almost no grain and very high definition, love it! The film transfer is made in Ochoypico. https://vimeo.com/62358313 Is this really Super 8? I can not believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Amazing! That's some high quality optics you've got there. This super 8 looks better than even 16mm 20 years ago! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose luis villar Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yes, is shot with a super 8 Beaulieu 4008 ZM2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Yes, is shot with a super 8 Beaulieu 4008 ZM2. Â What lens are you using? My test shots are on an 1014 XL-S which, in my opinion, has the best optics of any other static lenses. I'd love to have a Beaulieu c-mont with some good glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Stevens Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's mind blowingly superb and looks like super16 to my eyes. I'm looking forward to shooting my own 50D this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 It's mind blowingly superb and looks like super16 to my eyes. I'm looking forward to shooting my own 50D this summer. Â I've seen other Vision3 50D Super 8 samples that look no where near as clean/sharp as this. It must be the optics on his Beaulieu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted March 22, 2013 Premium Member Share Posted March 22, 2013 Wow, that's good. Â Has that been noise-reduced to kill the grain a little? I notice a bit of smearing in the grain, but none in real detail, so if it's been NR'd, it's been NR'd with an appropriately light touch. I may be seeing compression artefacts, which can look similar. Â It could of course be dustbusted too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose luis villar Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I have a Beaulieu ZM2, Canon 814XLS y1014 XLS. The optical quality is better, by far,in the Beaulieu, followed by 814 and, finally, the 1014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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