Harry Laos Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Hello People I am new here and new to 16mm. I recently purchased some Fujifilm F-64D stock which, as you can see from the pic below, has come out extremely blue. The flowers are supposed to be red. Is this normal or is this more of a tungsten film reaction without a filter? Perhaps the film is faulty? I did not use any filters as it did not insist any were needed for daylight shooting. Any help or opinions would be much appreciated :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Holland Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Was this new stock ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Well, first off this is a daylight film. So, tungsten is not the issue. And, if it was a tungsten film in daylight it would look a little blue, not change red to blue. LOL My first guess would be the transfer. Have you tried scanning a couple of frames manually with a flatbed or something like that? Was this a negative scan or a print? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Switaj Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 If you look at the film on a light table, is the color cast this bad, or has it gotten worse in transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It's neg, it's unlikely he could recognise such a cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Laos Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 Yes this is new stock. I have not tried scanning a few frames on a flatbed or checking it on a light table. The telecine was done on the negative on a Rank Cintel. The processing guys told me there was nothing on their end that would have produced this heavy blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bartok Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Can you locate the batch number and ask Fujifilm about it, just in case it was a bad batch. You can try compensating in post lifting the red levels and lowering the blue, someone that is properly trained will be able to remove the bulk of it from the image. Sorry to hear about the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk DeJonghe Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Looks like an improperly adjusted telecine transfer to me. Are you sure you didn't have the blue filter in place to shoot with daylight film under tungsten conditions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Looks like an improperly adjusted telecine transfer to me. Are you sure you didn't have the blue filter in place to shoot with daylight film under tungsten conditions? Even if there was an 80 filter on daylight film it wouldn't blue it so much that something red comes out blue. This is either an telecine issue, a film emulsion issue, or a processing issue. I just don't see how a filter could cause this. Take your 80 filter and look at something red through it. It gives it a more blue hue but doesn't actually make it blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Laos Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks for your help guys.. I will send off the batch number to the rep and re attempt the transfer :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Kubin Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) https://vimeo.com/53002171 Don't think age of film is an issue. This Fuji 64D test is using really old stock 5-6 years, I think. My guess is the transfer...I have had some issues with old film and color shifting but not like that, looks like a balance issue Edited January 28, 2013 by Kip Kubin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Laos Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 I did a scan on a photo neg scanner and the colors were correct! So the Rank Cintel is the culprit! I will try the transfer again :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Laos Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 https://vimeo.com/53002171 Don't think age of film is an issue. This Fuji 64D test is using really old stock 5-6 years, I think. My guess is the transfer...I have had some issues with old film and color shifting but not like that, looks like a balance issue Lovely film footage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I did a scan on a photo neg scanner and the colors were correct! So the Rank Cintel is the culprit! I will try the transfer again :rolleyes: Proud to have been the first to call/suggest that one. Silly Rank Cintel operator. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Lovely film footage! Yeah, I found that one on my own once after purchasing some 64D. Great test footage! F64-D actually has some nice saturation. It's a bit soft, but I actually like that in some cases. So sad it's gone forever. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic Case Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Silly Rank Cintel operator. Indeed, if that's the problem. It's hard to believe that any transfer operator can have sent this result out without querying it. It does highlight the value of shooting a few frames of a colour chart on the head of each roll (or at least one roll per batch sent for processing). It can settle almost any uncertainty. It'd be interesting if you cold post a frame with the correct colours, once you have it re-transferred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Laos Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) I was the Rank Cintel operator :rolleyes: Sorry I should have mentioned that. Yes no professional would send out a transfer like that. I have access to a Rank Cintel and though the grading panel is quite old, I could not grade out the blue tint. I had to finish it in an NLE. I have not seen any other color negative film (with a blue cast) play through that machine. The correct colors are in the pic below :) Edited January 29, 2013 by Harry Laos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Ahhh! Much better looking. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Cunningham Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I was the Rank Cintel operator :rolleyes: Sorry I should have mentioned that. Yes no professional would send out a transfer like that. I have access to a Rank Cintel and though the grading panel is quite old, I could not grade out the blue tint. I had to finish it in an NLE. I have not seen any other color negative film (with a blue cast) play through that machine. The correct colors are in the pic below :) Sorry Harry, didn't mean to insult. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Laos Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Sorry Harry, didn't mean to insult. :( No insult taken at all. I should have been clearer with my info :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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