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Hunter Hammons

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Hello there everybody. I discovered this forum very recently and this is my first post here. I am really intrigued to explore the forums a little bit more because I am currently a student and I feel like there's a lot that I can learn from the people on these boards.


Anyways, onto the main point about this post.

Like I said, I am a young student. I've only ever shot on digital so recently I have really been interested in taking a step back towards the roots of cinematography and learning how to shoot on celluloid. A few days ago I got my Beaulieu 4008ZM in the mail from someone selling it on eBay. I paid $270 + S&H for the camera. I don't truly know the market behind these cameras, but I felt that was a pretty good deal as the camera is pretty mint.


The only problems I could find were:

- Needs new / recelled battery (Also, it did not come with the AC charging adapter)

- Missing the eyecup for the viewfinder (Which I feel like makes it kind of hard to see into)

- A couple of the readings for the dials are loose and the camera could probably use a lube & adjustment service


Other than that the camera is like I said, in pretty mint condition. It came with the Angenieux 8-64mm f1.9 lens and overall has extremely little signs of wear and tear.

Unfortunately I have to come up with a battery solution and get my hands on some film before I can really get to testing and learning how to shoot.


My questions for you helpful and knowledgable folks consist of things like:

- What type of battery solution should I go for? Recelling the battery or purchasing a dummy pack with external battery source? (Which I have seen online for quite expensive; we're talking +$400 for creating a dummy, getting an external pack, and charger for the external pack)

- If I go for recelling does anyone know of people that do it over the internet or how I can go about finding a shop that does it? (I don't exactly trust myself to do the process haha; I would also need to purchase an AC adapter if I decided to do this)

- I'm going to keep doing my own research obviously, but does anyone have some advice for some good stocks to work with and where I can get cheap film+process+scan packages? (Either over the internet or near LA area) I keep seeing 50ft of film going for ~$35 for a package like that, which is understandable but at the same time makes me sad. I feel like that is a little expensive for 2.5 minutes of footage, but I suppose it depends on how much you want it.

- I still have a lot of practice to do, but for working on more serious projects down the line, do cartridges only come in 50ft formats? Because I feel that I've heard of a selection of longer (Say, 100ft, 200ft, 400ft) cartridges before but don't know if this is realistic or not.

- If you slate and record audio externally will it stay perfectly synced up in post? I've heard some people talking as if it doesn't.

- Lastly, do you have any other words of wisdom for a newcomer to the realm of film or for just a student in general?


I feel like this was quite longer than I expected the post to be, so if you even took the time to read it I appreciate it. You guys are awesome, and thank you in advance for any & all of the advice! :D








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Hi Hunter,


I'm also fairly new to the world of Super 8, but am uninspired by digital video. I used to mess around with Super 8 back in the 80's when I was a teenager. I also recently bought a couple of 4008's. I opted for this battery option. It comes with a charger and has worked well so far: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beaulieu-4008-Replacement-Battery-Pack-Kit-with-Charger-BI1300Li-BBC4008-/261524955200?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item3ce41a2040


He's based in Canada.


Regarding the costs and length of a roll of film, I find myself shooting things with thought and care. This rarely happens with video, and people tend to just shoot way too much "footage" in my opinion. An editing nightmare.





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That's a steep price for a couple of small lithium-ion cells, especially for such a coarse solution.


OK, I'm a tinkerer, but I'd probably opt for a simple DC-DC converter (all over ebay) with adjustable voltage to suit, stick it in a box, and connect it to whatever batteries I had lying around - or just get radio control batteries.



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I agree Phil, there are cheaper solutions but it works (for me) and I was too busy to tinker around. I considered a dummy socket and a half dozen of AA 1.25v rechargeables but in the end I opted for this. However, if you come up with a more elegant solution, I'd be interested.





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