Joshua Ian Parisi Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I shot a music video for my Cinematography class this semester. I shot ultra 16 500 T, pulled back a stop. I'd love some critiques (be as harsh as you need) so later attempts could be more successful. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Simon Wyss Posted December 14, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 14, 2014 Scissors! Scissors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 15, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 15, 2014 Not bad, but I felt you under-utilized the medium. What I mean by that is that it had a very "clean" look...much like digital. I want to see some grain. Also, what was your reasoning for shooting 500T rated at 250? Why not just use 5213 and push it a stop if needed? I recently shot 7219 rated at 2K and it still looks really nice. You did have nice saturation in the shots of the couch and I thought the white of the house and the blue of the sky was an absolutely beautiful exterior. That's one for a reel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 15, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 15, 2014 Also, what was your reasoning for shooting 500T rated at 250? Why not just use 5213 and push it a stop if needed? Sorry...I meant 7213. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 The exteriors were terribly flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Ian Parisi Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) When i was trying to figure out the look of the piece, I had wanted a very low contrast look to go along with the melancholy song. i decided 500 T would work to well to compensate for the viewfinder of the bolex as well as to still have enough exposure to pull. I guess I didn't realize just how clean the pull process would make it.Yeah, I'm not all that happy with the exteriors either. I can tell they're flat, but would you be able to pin point the reason they are? Is it a mix of color palette, lighting as well as the composition? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the feedback! Edited December 15, 2014 by Joshua Ian Parisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg MacPherson Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 ..... i decided 500 T would work to well to compensate for the viewfinder of the bolex..... Can you just make clear what you mean by that? I thought the clip was a bit unexpressive. A bit literal. Compared to the song, which was quite raw and direct emotionally. So I wondered if the concept development was weak. For a given exercise like this, you are the concept creator, effectively the director? So concept, conceive, develop, create, intensively, before you shoot. Unless the piece requires a careless aproach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 16, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 16, 2014 Can you just make clear what you mean by that? Yup...I was wondering the same thing. Were you thinking you needed faster film because of the beam-splitter in the Bolex? Like I said, flat or not. I liked the exteriors. Very nice color palette. I just think pulling the film made the project visually uninteresting. If you wanted a visually bleak mood, I would have done that through lighting rather than relying only on a processing technique which affects the entire film. Lighting & filtration are things you can adjust & tweak by the shot. I would focus on that for your next project. I pushed the film on my most recent short, but that was only one element of the visual look. Careful ighting and lens choice are probably the two most important things to consider when you are developing the visual tone of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Yeah, I'm not all that happy with the exteriors either. I can tell they're flat, but would you be able to pin point the reason they are? Is it a mix of color palette, lighting as well as the composition? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the feedback! I've no experience of telecine but I assume it's the transfer. I can't tell you what to do about it. You might expect it of the overcast scenes but even the sunny scenes are flat. A projected print just wouldn't look like that. A saturation and clarity fix in Lightroom improves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 16, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I'm not all that happy with the exteriors either. I can tell they're flat, but would you be able to pin point the reason they are? Is it a mix of color palette, lighting as well as the composition? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the feedback! Bear in mind that you were shooting under an overcast sky for most of your shots. That combined with the pull-processing and the telecine most likely did it. Edited December 16, 2014 by Bill DiPietra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Dunn Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 the pull-processing Ah. I missed that. Probably not necessary. I'm thinking that overexposure would have been preferable, as these stocks are quier tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bill DiPietra Posted December 16, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 16, 2014 The exteriors were terribly flat. So I watched this the first few times on my iPhone and the exteriors didn't look half bad. But once I watched it on my PC, I see what Mark meant. The exteriors are very washed out and appear rather soft. Do you remember what your aperture setting was for those shots? Your nicest shot is when the guy is being wheeled down the corridor. Nice composition, contrast & lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted December 18, 2014 Premium Member Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yea, I agree with Bill, the B&W stuff looked great, the other outdoor stuff was problematic. I have a feeling you didn't use an 85 filter, which is a prerequisite when shooting tungsten stock outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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