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The end user might have good reason not to keep up with technology. As I keep saying you ignore economics. Also plenty of people are consuming content on phones and tablets which so far have more limited computing power. Often these mobile devices can also be on 3g and 4g which can be expensive in terms of bandwidth. Again this is an economic issue of course but one that is of concern to people. There is the issue of whether is it worth streaming in even 1080p if you are watching on a tiny 10 inch screen or less. Lots of issues which are all relevant to the end users.

 

Maybe it's just me, but why would anyone want to watch anything on the tiny screen of their phone? What's the appeal of movie or ?? viewed on a four or five inch screen? Makes me think we are still in the early days of broadcast Television.

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Setting all that aside, in any case please note Tyler, that even in the tiny bit you quoted. The word "more" was there. This implies an increase in something. So I didn't say anything even remotely like "1080p will be coming soon". Not even close.

Sorry for the confusion, I misinterpreted what you said based on my own experience.

 

Here in the states, 1080p streaming has been around for 6 years. 1080p BluRay/HDDVD, add another 5 to that. Heck, even the majority of modern/new content on television is shot in 1080p and broadcast in 1080i. Sure, some news outlets still do all their work in 720p, but in terms of physical broadcast, it's mostly 1080i in this country and has been for umm... 10 years?

 

I understand your point of saying that 1080p will make more of an impact in the future, I do get it. This is assuming people will buy new devices, but I keep saying it will be A LONG TIME before they do. Anyone who doesn't have 1080p viewing capacity today, most likely won't for a very very long time because they will be keeping their devices until failure. Plus, internet speed hasn't changed much in 5 years and people who don't already have fast enough internet, most likely live in areas providers aren't going to be upgrading anytime soon either. The US has the worst 1st world country internet and it's not getting better. When it does, UHD streaming will be standard (because it's coming fast) and everyone will be using that, 1080p will be a distant memory for internet streaming. Now UHD broadcast? That's a long, long, long way away.

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Maybe it's just me, but why would anyone want to watch anything on the tiny screen of their phone? What's the appeal of movie or ?? viewed on a four or five inch screen? Makes me think we are still in the early days of broadcast Television.

 

I’ve always wondered the same. But it seems it’s very popular. Or so I’m led to believe.

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Now UHD broadcast? That's a long, long, long way away.

 

Are the Tokyo Olympics near enough for you?

 

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/127997-japan-plans-8k-tv-broadcast-testing-in-2016-with-full-service-by-2020-tokyo-olympics

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10722021/Panasonic-to-power-8K-NHK-broadcasts-for-Tokyo-Olympics.html

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/08/24/reference/japan-backs-next-generation-8k-technology-ahead-of-2020-games/

 

:)

 

There was another post that reminded me to say this on the previous page, but it doesn’t matter now. What I wanted to say is: Where is it that I’ve read years ago how the porn industry is the lead innovator? BBC’s website? The Wall Street Journal? None of those two? Perhaps The New Yorker? I don’t think so. I think it had something to do with how it does it’s business or how it is being filmed and distributed or something like that. So... Watch porn. Oops, that’s a double entendre. I meant the industry, of course. If it’s leading the way into 4K content and then, beyond that, into 8K, then that’s coming, I’m sure.

 

Then there’s the 5G network, which, I think, is coming in 2020. If that matters in any way. I think it does.

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Plus, internet speed hasn't changed much in 5 years and people who don't already have fast enough internet, most likely live in areas providers aren't going to be upgrading anytime soon either. The US has the worst 1st world country internet and it's not getting better. When it does, UHD streaming will be standard (because it's coming fast) and everyone will be using that, 1080p will be a distant memory for internet streaming. Now UHD broadcast? That's a long, long, long way away.

 

True, my little part of the world isn't getting fibre optic service any time soon.

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Are the Tokyo Olympics near enough for you?

Japan's analog HD system went into service in 1985. We're on year 6 of HD in the US and Europe. A far, far, far cry from what Japan has.

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Maybe it's just me, but why would anyone want to watch anything on the tiny screen of their phone? What's the appeal of movie or ?? viewed on a four or five inch screen? Makes me think we are still in the early days of broadcast Television.

 

Sometimes it's the only option. I've been in that situation. One big advantage of mobile devices is they are mobile but the low power requirements are handy too (I don't always have access to mains electricity) but sometimes it might just be that what someone has is a tablet or a phone and they don't have easy access to a better computer, or they do but it is the family computer, which they have to share time on. The tablets and mobiles thus have the appeal of allowing a personal use. Also they don't take up much space and you can just grab them and leave if you have to get out. (Those last two are probably more of a UK thing with the housing situation here)

 

Then there is the 3G/4G thing. It's not speed that is always the problem here but cost. It's very expensive to stream video in such a context as you are paying by the megabyte. It is on the other hand much cheaper than having a landline and internet service if you can keep your bandwidth costs right down.

 

I do find using my android phone a really horrible experience tho but then I tend to use the web browser more than a lot of people would in this context and apps take away a lot of the nastyness.

 

Oh and lastly, why do you need to see video's of kittens and prank video's or people talking to camera on a big screen?

 

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I guess we need to differentiate between "real" content and BS content. My post related to smart phones only. Would you watch a feature film on your phone? Why? On a tablet maybe. Would you watch a short how-to video on your phone? Most certainly.

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Maybe it's just me, but why would anyone want to watch anything on the tiny screen of their phone? What's the appeal of movie or ?? viewed on a four or five inch screen? Makes me think we are still in the early days of broadcast Television.

 

I can assure you that watching anything on a iPhone, that isn't macro blocking... is a joy relative to 50's vintage TV... when I 'tuned in'... especially since where we lived we only had one station we could receive and at the time it was the ABC affiliate... and the transmitter was located in Mexico...

 

Heck... the iPhone does color... The first 'color' TV that one of my friends had was built by his father from a Radio Shack kit...

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I guess we need to differentiate between "real" content and BS content. My post related to smart phones only. Would you watch a feature film on your phone? Why? On a tablet maybe. Would you watch a short how-to video on your phone? Most certainly.

 

Yes... I have been watching a number of TV shows on Netflix, usually UK/BBC material, and occasionally features, which I don't feel like buying a disk. I prefer disks for the basic reason as unless the player dies and there is no replacement(HDDVD I'm looking at you...), if I want to rewatch something it's there, and I usually buy the package with some set of extras.

 

Currently most 'streaming' sources do not carry the attendant BTS extras. And sometimes services such as Netflix discontinue paying for library rights and so a chunk of films and shows disappears...

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Are the Tokyo Olympics near enough for you?

 

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/127997-japan-plans-8k-tv-broadcast-testing-in-2016-with-full-service-by-2020-tokyo-olympics

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10722021/Panasonic-to-power-8K-NHK-broadcasts-for-Tokyo-Olympics.html

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/08/24/reference/japan-backs-next-generation-8k-technology-ahead-of-2020-games/

 

:)

 

There was another post that reminded me to say this on the previous page, but it doesn’t matter now. What I wanted to say is: Where is it that I’ve read years ago how the porn industry is the lead innovator? BBC’s website? The Wall Street Journal? None of those two? Perhaps The New Yorker? I don’t think so. I think it had something to do with how it does it’s business or how it is being filmed and distributed or something like that. So... Watch porn. Oops, that’s a double entendre. I meant the industry, of course. If it’s leading the way into 4K content and then, beyond that, into 8K, then that’s coming, I’m sure.

 

Then there’s the 5G network, which, I think, is coming in 2020. If that matters in any way. I think it does.

 

Porn didn't lead into HDDVD becoming the defacto standard for HD disks... but porn has lead the charge into on line streaming... but of course... who in this august group watches tawdry porn... or even high class porn...

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