Max Field Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 It's not really a genre people go to for cinematography, but it's interesting to see all aspects of a project fully utilized even if people are only going for one thing. As in COMEDY has to be the primary genre, not "dramedy". I personally enjoyed the look of Crazy Stupid Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted September 4, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 4, 2016 My favorites are probably Chris Menges' work on "Local Hero" and "Comfort and Joy", and many Woody Allen movies, but those are all on the lower-key, naturalistic side, not really "lit" for comedy. Same goes for the comedies shot by David Watkin for Richard Lester, or Roger Deakins' work on the Coen Brothers movies. I'm also a fan of William Fraker's work on comedies like "Heaven Can Wait" and "1941" but those either are romantic comedies (in the first) or period action comedies (in the second.) And there's also the Wes Anderson films, which have some lovely cinematography by Robert Yeoman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Earl Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 "The Smell of Success" I think is beautiful. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tristan Noelle Posted September 4, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 4, 2016 I'm always impressed by parody films that really nail the look of the genre they're spoofing. Gerald Hirschfield's work on "Young Frankenstein" is a great example of that, and he has some great stories of finding that look. Brandon Trost's cinematography in "MacGruber" is great, it looks like a big budget action film. His comedy work in general has a lower key and edgier feel that stands out from a lot of contemporary comedy work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted September 6, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 6, 2016 I really enjoy Edgar Wright's movies look. Also I really liked the Cinematography of Bridget Jone's Diary. Death to Smoochy-- though a dark comedy-- i think is also pretty beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Bruce Southerland Posted September 6, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 6, 2016 I really liked the look Caleb Deschanel acheived in "Being There". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted September 6, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 6, 2016 I really liked the look Caleb Deschanel acheived in "Being There". Yes, that's great -- very much in the mode of some of the comedies lit by Gordon Willis or Owen Roizman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted September 7, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 7, 2016 Gordon Willis for sure, those Woody Allen films look amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua gallegos Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I really enjoyed the cinematography in 'Some Like It Hot' by Charles Lang, it was Billy Wilder who went against the idea of shooting the film as a comedy, because the opening had to be very gritty and real, so that the audience believed that the characters were really scared. If you really think about how absurd the plot is, you would never have imagined it would've worked so well, that's just the pure genius of Wilder. Also the work done by Robert Elswit on Punch-Drunk Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted September 8, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2016 If you like Charles Lang, ASC, Criterion is putting out a blu-ray of his VistaVision western, "One-Eyed Jacks", partly shot in Monterey, CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member George Ebersole Posted September 8, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2016 I like the camera work on "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World", but not the shot design. "Ishtar" was said to have good cinematography way back in the day when it was released. I thought it was okay. The movie itself apparently didn't do well, and I've always wondered if that was because it was shot like a drama instead of a comedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua gallegos Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 If you like Charles Lang, ASC, Criterion is putting out a blu-ray of his VistaVision western, "One-Eyed Jacks", partly shot in Monterey, CA. I've never seen 'One-Eyed Jacks', but I particularly love The Ghost & Mrs Muir, added to the soundtrack by Bernard Herrmann, it's truly a great underrated film. I remember being completely enchanted by it, when I saw it on TCM some years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted September 8, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2016 It's been a long time since I've seen that one but I recall it being very lovely. Have you ever seen "Portrait of Jennie" (1948)? Lush b&w cinematography by Joseph August, ASC. The shoot exhausted him (being a Selznick production) and he died right after he finished it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member George Ebersole Posted September 8, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 8, 2016 Another one is "My Man Godfrey" with Carole Lombard and William Powell. A family favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Clark Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) It's been a long time since I've seen that one but I recall it being very lovely. Have you ever seen "Portrait of Jennie" (1948)? Lush b&w cinematography by Joseph August, ASC. The shoot exhausted him (being a Selznick production) and he died right after he finished it. Oopps responded to the wrong post... Edited September 8, 2016 by John E Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Clark Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 (edited) If you like Charles Lang, ASC, Criterion is putting out a blu-ray of his VistaVision western, "One-Eyed Jacks", partly shot in Monterey, CA. It has been a million years since I've seen this film... so I can't comment on the cinematography, but I was so unimpressed by the story/acting, I've not been interested in seeing it again. On the other hand, "Mutiny on the Bounty"(1962) fused in my preadolescent brain the desire to go to the South Pacific... Mumbles Brando notwithstanding... Apropos this forum, Robert Surtees, who was the Bounty cinematographer, had a string of awards and nominations, including an Oscar for "Ben Hur"(1959). Do "The Graduate"(1967) and "The Sting"(1973) count as 'comedies"? Edited September 8, 2016 by John E Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 My favorites are probably Chris Menges' work on "Local Hero" and "Comfort and Joy", and many Woody Allen movies, but those are all on the lower-key, naturalistic side, not really "lit" for comedy. What exactly do you mean by "lit" for comedy? I understand different genres can have different styles, but is there always a set of guidelines for shooting for humorous tone? Also thanks to everyone for your suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Payne Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 What exactly do you mean by "lit" for comedy? I understand different genres can have different styles, but is there always a set of guidelines for shooting for humorous tone? Also thanks to everyone for your suggestions. Comedy often is lit very evenly avoiding shadows and contrast. Compare this to say, a crime drama which might have strong contrast, shadows and subdued or gloomy colors. The traditional thinking is that shadows and darkness symbolize mystery and danger, and presumably evoke feelings of fear, isolation and sadness. The goal with comedy is normally the opposite. Rather it's to create a cheerful setting, reduce anxiety, and set the mood for laughter. I don't think there are rules, and there are many great exceptions where comedies have used more dramatic lighting with very funny results. But that's the basic idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted September 9, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 9, 2016 Comedies tend to minimize the use of moodier lighting expect for story reasons, otherwise there is a tendency for a more "cheerful" tone, more high-key. In physical comedy, there is also the rule that you need to see the "gag" clearly. It's a bit of a cliche though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Clark Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 (edited) What exactly do you mean by "lit" for comedy? I understand different genres can have different styles, but is there always a set of guidelines for shooting for humorous tone? Also thanks to everyone for your suggestions. One does see stronger lighting in comedies when the comedy is parodizing a known genre, such as horror. Otherwise comedy tends to be less contrasty. A for example of lighting parody for humor response, the late Gene Wilder and Peter Boyle, in Mel Brooks' "Young Frankenstein"(1974) Edited September 9, 2016 by John E Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted September 9, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 9, 2016 Gerald Hirschfeld has mentioned that after he finished the answer print for "Young Frankenstein", Mel Brooks told the lab to then print everything overall brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member George Ebersole Posted September 9, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 9, 2016 An exceptionally well lit and well shot comedy is another family favorite; "Kiss me Goodbye". It's a remake of a Brazilian film whose name I forget ... checking IMDb; Sally Field, James Caan, Jeff Bridges, a remake of "Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands" Trailer for Kiss Me Goodbye; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua gallegos Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 It's been a long time since I've seen that one but I recall it being very lovely. Have you ever seen "Portrait of Jennie" (1948)? Lush b&w cinematography by Joseph August, ASC. The shoot exhausted him (being a Selznick production) and he died right after he finished it. I looked up the director, as I haven't seen the film and to my delight it was William Dieterle. I have seen a couple of his films: Devil & Daniel Webster, and The Hunchback of Notre Dame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tristan Noelle Posted September 10, 2016 Premium Member Share Posted September 10, 2016 In the making of documentary on the "Young Frankenstein" DVD, Hirschfeld says he would light the wide shots very contrasty and dark to set the sense of place and mood for the scene, but for the close ups he'd fill them in more so the comedy would play better. Sort of a way to have your cake and eat it too I guess. Apologies in advance for the digression, but because I have the book handy: "...because I was satirizing the look of the original Frankenstein, I asked the lab to develop the negative to about a 7.2 Gamma to better match the more contrasty negative used for the original. The increased development time (equivalent to forcing or pushing) gave me the desired degree of contrast and decreased the amount of light needed for the F/4.5 stop that was used to carry the depth of the larger castle sets." - Image Control, Gerald Hrischfeld, ASC, p. 74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John E Clark Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 In the making of documentary on the "Young Frankenstein" DVD, Hirschfeld says he would light the wide shots very contrasty and dark to set the sense of place and mood for the scene, but for the close ups he'd fill them in more so the comedy would play better. Sort of a way to have your cake and eat it too I guess. Apologies in advance for the digression, but because I have the book handy: "...because I was satirizing the look of the original Frankenstein, I asked the lab to develop the negative to about a 7.2 Gamma to better match the more contrasty negative used for the original. The increased development time (equivalent to forcing or pushing) gave me the desired degree of contrast and decreased the amount of light needed for the F/4.5 stop that was used to carry the depth of the larger castle sets." - Image Control, Gerald Hrischfeld, ASC, p. 74 So, it would seem that even in a comedy parody of a 'strong lighting' genre, the lighting is 'less strong' to support the comedic effect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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