Robin R Probyn Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 It is not the "colored knob" update of the FS5mk2! ha I know what you mean .. but the big up grade was the new Sony Rec709 Lucent color space for internal recording.. that would be a major reason to up grade .. oddly at the moment the only two Sony cameras that have it are the Venice at the top of the heap and the Fs5II at the very bottom ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Peterson Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yeah but that is something the could/should have just given as a firmware update to the FS5 mk1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Yeah but that is something the could/should have just given as a firmware update to the FS5 mk1! Its not possible..don't worry all the F5/55 owners said the same thing. !!. .its just not firmware up date do able .. very least must be a different color filter array set up I guess.. I really hope Lucent / the electronic Variable ND/ the PL type locking E mount and 6K is on the next F series camera ! that would be a keeper .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon O'Brien Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 When you have to order them and they are promised to deliver and then there is none for half a year it just does not work at all :blink: Seems to be happening more and more in the film/video world. For instance Kodak and Ektachrome film, and the Super 8 camera. Might be the realities of business now. Very high production costs, cutting it extremely finely with profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom lombard Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I've never had that problem with them. I have two pocket cameras, both I had zero issues getting when brand new. As I said before, I think the European market is a struggle for them. The US peeps aren't having issues getting them at all. US peep here. I pre-ordered at B&H when they were first announced. I finally cancelled in early December as it was still back ordered and I heard that Adorama had them. Nope. I was back ordered there too. As I have a reason to go with B&H when I can, I cancelled the Adorama order after a few weeks and placed an order with B&H again around the first of the year... and I'm still back ordered. If anyone would be able to direct me to somewhere in the US that has it actually in stock, I'd cancel my B&H order in a heartbeat and get it elsewhere. This isn't a knock against B&H or even BM. On my budget, it's a major investment and I've been looking forward to upgrading from my T3i for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted March 7, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted March 7, 2019 US peep here. I pre-ordered at B&H when they were first announced. I finally cancelled in early December as it was still back ordered and I heard that Adorama had them. Nope. I was back ordered there too. As I have a reason to go with B&H when I can, I cancelled the Adorama order after a few weeks and placed an order with B&H again around the first of the year... and I'm still back ordered. If anyone would be able to direct me to somewhere in the US that has it actually in stock, I'd cancel my B&H order in a heartbeat and get it elsewhere. This isn't a knock against B&H or even BM. On my budget, it's a major investment and I've been looking forward to upgrading from my T3i for awhile. Had you just waited a few more weeks, you would have received the camera. Blackmagic didn't start shipping the bulk of the orders till December. I haven't heard when the next batch will be released, but I would assume they have a lot of back orders so it maybe a while. I myself am waiting until they're in stock because I'm in no hurry and I feel there maybe a hardware update up the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Connolly Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Mine finally arrived last Friday. From being ordered in Sept - glad I held out. But 6 months late isn't great, you'd hope BM learn't their lesson from the delays on the production 4k a few years ago and not announce projects that aren't ready Still got 5 nice new cameras to play with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Connolly Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 and perhaps worth the wait. They are very impressive at the price point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Incredible as a B-cam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Connolly Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 Had a play with it today. They are excellent, the screen is really sharp, they are easy to set up, images out the box look great, good latitude and low light is v impressive. Just pointing it at the office in random lighting looked great. This is going to be the goto budget camera, the ergonomics without flip screen are a bit fiddly but i guess manageable with a rig. Might have to order a few more - I think these are going to be the perfect replacement for our stock of canon DLSR's. Shame they don't do an EF mount since our lenses are mostly EF and the adaptor is an extra expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Aapo Lettinen Posted April 4, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Max Field / Macks Fiiod said: Incredible as a B-cam wow the same actress appears in both of the cameras and is even lit almost similarly, truly incredible content matching by Blackmagic! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 36 minutes ago, aapo lettinen said: wow the same actress appears in both of the cameras and is even lit almost similarly, truly incredible content matching by Blackmagic! ? The only time the camera fell short was the outdoor tests around 2:55. But for 5% of the price, not bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted April 4, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted April 4, 2019 Nice to see someone do an actually test who knows how to color properly! Every test I've seen has been garbage outside of this one. Where the colors of the pocket camera are more muted, I think this test is pretty accurate in what the camera can deliver. The Alexa of course will have a more shallow depth of field look due to the larger imager, it also shows how much depth there is to the colors of the Alexa, plus more channel separation. This is clearly noted in the skin tone differences, the detail in the skin is not as present on the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vital Butinar Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Mine arrived on Monday. ? Fantastic so far. Very pleased. And it only took 4 months to arrive. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Connolly Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I've already shot two projects. It completely saved my bacon in a dark location, requiring 5000 and 10,000 ISO to get enough exposure. The footage that came out was quite useable, grainy but in a nice way 10,000 iso looks a bit like 500 ISO 16mm The only issues I have is the ergonomics are not great, I'm going to have to get a rig. The internal battery life is also poor - between 30 and 50 mins each charge dependant on resolution, again going to have to source an alternate power source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Berger Posted April 18, 2019 Author Share Posted April 18, 2019 I'm wondering about IBIS, does it have any? Never bothered to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Connolly Posted April 19, 2019 Share Posted April 19, 2019 It has not got image stabilisation. I did a project handheld using the Panasonic 14-140mm zoom that does have internal stabilisation, last week and it turned out ok. I'm more of a tripod person so it tends not to matter to me , but there are lenses that can help. At the price point I don't think you can expect more then the basics, sure ND, good ergonomics, better battery life and SDI would all be great to have. But they would push the price up. I have access to an FS7 but already the BM pocket is turning into my goto camera for certain projects, because I can just fit it and a couple of lenses in a small bag and travel light. I still do the odd central London job where public transport is needed to get to the location. The ability to fit everything into a bag that you can take on the tube, go through barriers - is huge. Combined with the great low light, meaning I can get away with just bringing a reflector or single small LED source for interviews. Its very practical for those jobs. And this is from someone who was very angry with black magic 1 month ago and considering cancelling my order. BM has won me round... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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