Ed Conley Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 yeah- he then and went played some hoops after his injury. I said work smart- whether it be on a union shoot or a non-union shoot. We work with the same grip as motion. Same stage power- Same 500-1000amp Tow plants. same 5-wire same bates cable same stingers and by gosh sometimes we even use 1k lights on stands that might be 7 feet up. Again- I support unions.Tomorrow we will be at Universal- Union. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 yeah- he then and went played some hoops after his injury. Because it wasn't that bad, just startling. I'm lucky to have anatomy where the shoulder didn't stay dislocated. Other people may not be so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) Ed Im a bit confused .. you say you are an owner of a stills rental shop.. so a shoot at Universal means you drive your van in the gates and off load the rental gear.. Ive never seen a stills shoot with 18K HMI,s .. don't they use a flash.. 30 foot of tracks..20kg loaded up cameras..? anyway let me reiterate .. to just say dont work on under staffed shoots put together by unscrupulous producers might sound ok from behind the counter of a shop but its not helpful for those being put in danger by such practices .. ? Edited July 18, 2018 by Robin R Probyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Greene Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 One brought to you by the department of reality, founded by someone who attended the school of hard knocks, the college of unanticipated fists to the face, and the university of getting the poop kicked out of you. (Thankyou, Edmund) What's really weird here is that... in person Phil, you don't seem like the kind of person who would write this about themselves. And you seem to have a demeanor that could work for you as a cinematographer. I'm not sure I understand your attitude, but, it does make for entertaining reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Conley Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 Again, I never said I support unscrupulous producers. I have battled with them. "Just carry the Honda 6500 down the stairs to the beach" "um sure, get me some more people and we can make it happen." If you don't say no then they keep getting away with what they're doing. Unfortunately everyone who wants to get into the business are the ones that will do it because "you just want to get your foot in the door" Universal, Fox, Paramount, Sony lots are all union so it's a mix on when we can bring in our equipment and trucks- just 3-ton trucks. We definitely are not using 5-tons. If it's big enough then two 3-tons rather than one 5-ton. Most times we have to use their grip dept for equipment and they also provide one grip and one electric on set while the Photo crew works the job.Most of the lighting is flash so they don't want to bother with that part because they are not familiar with it but if we are on a studio lot, most likely it is a bigger shoot with 20 or more Flash units that can pull 20amps each so we check in with electric for sure. 18k once in awhile but more M18, M40 and M90. Some days it can be just a cargo van with a few items and some days it's a 40' Condor, M90, generator, genny operator and the rest of the equipment that might be needed ... delivered to the location on PCH. It's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Roger that.. peace and love.. united we stand ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTON CHIA Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 I remember reading this news: https://deadline.com/2015/03/injured-set-worker-husband-set-safety-1201389710/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted August 4, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted August 4, 2018 Ed Im a bit confused .. you say you are an owner of a stills rental shop.. so a shoot at Universal means you drive your van in the gates and off load the rental gear.. Ive never seen a stills shoot with 18K HMI,s .. don't they use a flash.. 30 foot of tracks..20kg loaded up cameras..? anyway let me reiterate .. to just say dont work on under staffed shoots put together by unscrupulous producers might sound ok from behind the counter of a shop but its not helpful for those being put in danger by such practices .. ? Gregory Crewdson would be an exception to that-- minus the tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted August 5, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted August 5, 2018 I was going to say, there's some madman out there who sets up still photos like a motion picture set. Is that who I'm thinking of? There's BTS of it somewhere. A snow scene, mid century, guy in a coat and hat with his back to camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted August 5, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted August 5, 2018 It most likely is. (and yes, 99% sure that's a crewdson). he has an interesting Instagram to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 Ok well there might be one stills guy who uses 18K HMI,s.... but does he shoot on 35mm movie cameras too.. :).. I believe my statement is 99.9% true .. your honor .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Adrian Sierkowski Posted August 5, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted August 5, 2018 I don't even think he shoots 35mm stills camera lol. But yes, he is an exception. If memory servers, from reading awhile ago, he even has a full crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin R Probyn Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 full crew then its fine ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Field Posted August 5, 2018 Author Share Posted August 5, 2018 I was going to say, there's some madman out there who sets up still photos like a motion picture set. Yeah, me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Phil Rhodes Posted August 5, 2018 Premium Member Share Posted August 5, 2018 What's really weird here is that... in person Phil, you don't seem like the kind of person who would write this about themselves. And you seem to have a demeanor that could work for you as a cinematographer. I'm not sure I understand your attitude, but, it does make for entertaining reading! Careful, you'll give me ideas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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