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Hey there,

 

Currently looking for a solution to rigging a 2K above a large set inside of an industrial coolroom.

 

We did this the other day in a way that I would like to avoid doing again due to its stability.

 

Old Solution: C-Stand with cartalini gripping another C-Stand shaft at full length. Light at the end of that arm, Everything was shifted back by roughly 15 degrees and added 75kg of shot bags to the other end for counterbalance. Once raised, it was panned across and then ratchet tied to scaffold that was inside the coolroom.

 

Rough Floorplan: https://imgur.com/a/zPrlZHq

 

We were/are limited to a few things right now;

 

* Stands - C Stands are our best stands as of right now. I have the option to hire out another that is more suited, this is what I'm mainly looking for right now, but the footprint of larger stands don't fit inside the area we have.

 

* Can't light from the inside of the room - a lot of it is handheld and wide angle that covers the majority of the room.

 

* Flats can't be moved ( weight of the set pieces inside)

 

*Flats start at 2.4m at the door and end at 3.2m behind the bed.

 

* Roof of set is completely defused.

 

I'm primarily looking for a better stand to help raise and reach that will be more stable than the c-stands with all the weight that was on it.

 

Thank you!

Jayden

 

 

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I'm primarily looking for a better stand to help raise and reach that will be more stable than the c-stands with all the weight that was on it.

 

 

I would recommend a "menace arm" rig consisting of a heavy duty senior roller with menace arm kit and 20' 1.5" speed rail.

 

Guy Holt, Gaffer, ScreenLight & Grip, Lighting rental and sales in Boston

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I would recommend a "menace arm" rig consisting of a heavy duty senior roller with menace arm kit and 20' 1.5" speed rail.

 

Guy Holt, Gaffer, ScreenLight & Grip, Lighting rental and sales in Boston

 

Looked for these already in my area and surrounding, and nobody seems to rent them daily, and the one person who does has it overseas for a shoot.

 

Any other solutions?

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Looked for these already in my area and surrounding, and nobody seems to rent them daily, and the one person who does has it overseas for a shoot.

 

Any other solutions?

 

Have you tried this in Sydney? Daily rent.

 

Equivalent to a Matthews Hi Hi - High Roller

https://www.thefront.com.au/avenger-overhead-stand-58-with-braked-wheels-hire

 

Something like a 'telescopic' menace, max load 10kg. The paranoid in me will have me securing another magic arm from the boom to the stand so that I have more than one connection point.

https://www.thefront.com.au/manfrotto-juniorboom-d650-hire

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Looked for these already in my area and surrounding, and nobody seems to rent them daily, and the one person who does has it overseas for a shoot.

 

Any other solutions?

 

 

I think you are looking at the wrong thing. Menace Arm kit is just a bracket that standard speedrail slides into to make a Boom arm.

 

https://products.msegrip.com/collections/max-family/products/speed-rail-menace-arm-kit

 

 

Should be available at grip houses.

 

 

the Matthews Max Menace is a different beast.

 

https://products.msegrip.com/collections/max-family/products/max-menace-arm

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I think you are looking at the wrong thing. Menace Arm kit is just a bracket that standard speedrail slides into to make a Boom arm.

 

https://products.msegrip.com/collections/max-family/products/speed-rail-menace-arm-kit

 

 

Should be available at grip houses.

 

 

the Matthews Max Menace is a different beast.

 

https://products.msegrip.com/collections/max-family/products/max-menace-arm

That was the actual menace arm that I was looking for within Sydney. Couldn't find any for daily rent. Unfortunately, the shoot was last weekend, hence my late response.

We resulted to the same setup using C-Stands and worked with production design to install some more stabilization for the arm on top of the flats it was raised over.

 

What type of 2k are you flying?

 

 

 

We planned to fly an Arri Blonde 2K, but resulted to an Aputure 300d for the lighter weight and color tone. It worked for what we wanted in the end while drawing less power.

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