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Shooting double exposures on an Arri 416

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I’m intending to do some double exposures on 16mm film with an Arri 416 camera. The most rudimentary method I could think of is just expose the entire roll (one stop underexposed, or however I feel is appropriate for the subject), make notes of the contents, and then reload the same film to shoot the second layer. But sometimes it would be really convenient to be able to just «rewind» the film right away to do the second layer. As far as I can see from the manual, there is no such function in the camera. I guess you could open the mag and do it manually, but it sounds cumbersome. Anyone done this and know a good method that I haven’t though of?

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Hi John,

The Arri 416 apparently emulates the design of the Aaton 16mm cameras and also their lack of internal motorized reverse coupled to a frame counter. However, there are motorized reverse alternatives available, i.e. 

1. Internal motorized reverse coupled to frame counter re: 35mm cams,e.g.  Arri 235, 435, 535, Moviecam, Mitchell, etc.

2. External motorized reverse coupled to frame counter re: 16mm , e.g. Arri 16S/ST/M, Bolex w/ Revolution motor, Mitchell, etc. 

3. Internal motorized reverse coupled to frame counter re:  Super8/Single8, e.g. Fujica ZC1000 w/ C-Mount - entire 50ft of Single 8 cart can  be back wound  or reverse filmed. Excellent flat registration at the gate due to the 50ft vertical displacement mag/cart design. 

Cheers! 

Nicholas 

 

 

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Just to follow up. We did this effect using the 416. But discovered that we could not simply shoot out the roll and reload it, because it would then be upside down with the sprockets on the wrong side. So we had to shoot out the roll and then manually roll it back into the feed compartment inside a loading tent. It was time consuming 😉 We could not access another camera that could actually rewind, but I would recommend that to do this efficiently.

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On 9/5/2019 at 1:53 AM, John-Erling Holmenes Fredriksen said:

Just to follow up. We did this effect using the 416. But discovered that we could not simply shoot out the roll and reload it, because it would then be upside down with the sprockets on the wrong side. So we had to shoot out the roll and then manually roll it back into the feed compartment inside a loading tent. It was time consuming 😉 We could not access another camera that could actually rewind, but I would recommend that to do this efficiently.

Yea it's the same problem with all of the 400ft load cameras. You can't rewind the film in camera. It's only the speciality cameras like the Bolex that can do the rewind in camera. 

What I would do for double exposure on 16mm is shoot a 100ft daylight spool, rather than a 400ft load. Then simply rewind the film back onto the daylight spool. 

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