Giray Izcan Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 I shot this little test on expired 5230 and pushed it one. It was all with available lights. I shot it on bl 4s with a Cooke 20-100 wide open. I shot it flat 1:85. I overexposed it so it printed in low 40's. The footage was timed photochemically to my grey chart and the timed lo con print was scanned at 4k on Scanity at Fotokem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 password: low-con Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Mosness Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Having trouble with your password. Can you double check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Password: low-key sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Mosness Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Giray, Can you explain what "printed in the low 40's " means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Miguel Angel Posted September 17, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted September 17, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 1:03 AM, Giray Izcan said: I shot this little test on expired 5230 and pushed it one. It was all with available lights. I shot it on bl 4s with a Cooke 20-100 wide open. I shot it flat 1:85. I overexposed it so it printed in low 40's. The footage was timed photochemically to my grey chart and the timed lo con print was scanned at 4k on Scanity at Fotokem. It is absolutely beautiful Giray! Film is definitely a wonderful medium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Phillip Mosness said: Giray, Can you explain what "printed in the low 40's " means? Sure. When you overexpose negative, it yields for higher printer lights to print down or to dial the exposure back to normal from an overexposed image. Overexposure helps tightening up the grain, makes colors pop more with richer blacks as opposed to an underexposed but printed up image which tends to have more muted colors with milkier blacks and heavier grain. The choice of course depends. Since the film stock I shot on was expired, it need to be overexposed by 1 stop as film loses its sensitivity over time and and as the base fog increases with age. Essentially the 500 stock becomes more like 250. I pushed it one stop which technically brought the effective ASA back to 500 from 250 but I rated it as 320 ASA so overexposed the neg by 2/3 of a stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Miguel, Thank you. It was a test I shot for an upcoming project. I'm back to photochemical color timing and scanning prints or ip's as I prefer the film look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Henkel Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) It looks absolutely gorgeous with a notably 70s character to it from the color timing. How difficult is photochemical color timing nowadays out of curiosity? Edited September 18, 2019 by Lucas Henkel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 The workflow I'll be following is first get a telecine from the neg with edgecodes and then get the neg cut without worrying about sfx shots or titles or sound as I am only doing the color timing of the 35 and s16 material photochemically. I will then get the timed lo-con print scanned at 4k on Scanity. All gets done at Fotokem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 Pushed expired stock defintely surprised me in a good way in terms of grain. I like the fact that it looks grainier than most modern stuff due to expired film stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted September 18, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted September 18, 2019 Giray, I like the look! When you say low con print, are you saying you printed to interpositive stock and scanned that? Or is there some other print stock that you used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) It wasn't an IP. It was just a low contrast answer print. So the blacks and the colors match exactly to the film projection without% any color correction. I received the scans back in dpx and literally imported it into Davinci to convert the footage to Prores amd exported out right away. I exported it as Prores 422 lt. It was a 4k scan but since im on a MacBook Pro, my system couldn't handle the 4k so I set the resolution to 2k. Edited September 18, 2019 by Giray Izcan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted September 19, 2019 Premium Member Share Posted September 19, 2019 Ah I see, thanks. How do you get the low contrast in this process? I assume the print stock is still Kodak Vision 2383? Is it flashed or treated in some special way? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giray Izcan Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 Hmm I'm not really sure but i would imagine the same stock was used as there isn't really choices anymore. I'll ask them actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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