icha7 Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Hi, I'm a big fan of the Wong Kar Wai and Chris Doyle collaboration and was wondering how Chris Doyle achieves the look to their films such as Happy Together and In the Mood for Love. The question may seem general but how the colours contrast and blow out into different colours and so forth interest me. I await your responses. thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Brown Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Hi, Have a look on Google under Chris Doyle interviews you will find some good stuff. There is a interview in American Cinematographer 'September 03' talking about Hero and he focuses on his use of colours and why. Chris - "Well, Happy Together is actually black and white much against my wishes in a certain way. The film was processed in a different way for the entirety of Happy Together. It was very heavily push processed, and then we increased the grains by reduping the film again. We were really working for grains and contrast and a very special image" "They have developed a unique technique which they have used in all their films together to date: particular scenes are shot at a slower frame-rate so that the action is speeded up; the frames are then step-printed at a lower speed onto the finished film to restore the action to its real-time duration.4. The resultant images are ethereal and disorientating; scenes play and actions take place as if in normal speed, but yet there is a distortion; images seem to bleed into one another, lurching slightly so that one may think the action is taking place in slow-motion before realizing it is not. The effect is strangely dream-like, blurring colours and lights, seeming to simultaneously freeze action while it continues to move in front of our eyes" They are some small exerts from some interviews i have James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member David Mullen ASC Posted August 12, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted August 12, 2005 There is actually quite a variety of looks in their films -- some were shot on Agfa, some Fuji, some Kodak. The latest one, "2046" was shot in 35mm anamorphic and went through a D.I. Some movies are more muted than others. But one common technique for Doyle (it appears) is to use medium-speed stock and push-process (probably by two stops) rather than use a faster film. This is for night scenes in particularly. He's done a number of films on Fuji F-250T push-processed, for example. But others have used Agfa (like "Chungking Express") or Kodak (like "In the Mood for Love".) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamid Khozouie Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 . But one common technique for Doyle (it appears) is to use medium-speed stock and push-process (probably by two stops) rather than use a faster film. Dear DAVID He push medium-speed for taking lower contrast ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member John Pytlak RIP Posted September 1, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted September 1, 2005 He push medium-speed for taking lower contrast ?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Although push processing increases the mid-scale contrast, the underexposure that usually is done along with it will tend to reduce shadow detail and color saturation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfaraz M H Merchant Posted September 3, 2005 Share Posted September 3, 2005 (edited) " particular scenes are shot at a slower frame-rate so that the action is speeded up; the frames are then step-printed at a lower speed onto the finished film to restore the action to its real-time duration.4. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have no concreate idea of what "step printed" means in post production. Is that part of the standard processing process and transfer to to Telecine?? Can anyone elaborate? i.e can I during a low budget 16mm shoot, try this out? even though I'm going to telecine after processing? Edited September 3, 2005 by Sarfaraz Kaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Stephen Williams Posted September 3, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted September 3, 2005 I have no concreate idea of what "step printed" means in post production. Is that part of the standard processing process and transfer to to Telecine?? Can anyone elaborate? i.e can I during a low budget 16mm shoot, try this out? even though I'm going to telecine after processing? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi, A step printer is a single frame printing machine using a pin registered gate to make a print from the negative. Manly used for dupes needed in optical work using neg perf (print) stock. The step printer can be used to double frame the negative so negative exposed at 12 fps printed in doubles so the print is now 24fps. This equipment is not used so much today as most optical work is done digitally today. Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Derek1 Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I understand that Doyle usually shoots wide and tries to film the environment as well as the people (esp. 'In the Mood...' and 'Last Life...'). But, I can't figure out how you shoot wide with the kind of focal range he gets. In many scenes there's only an inch of space that's in focus, but the scene looks big (esp. in 'In the Mood..' and 'Hero'). Is he filming telephoto and just fooling me, or is he using magic, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfaraz M H Merchant Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 Thanks Stephen, I'm very wet behind the ears, and just starting out so my questions may appear really daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarfaraz M H Merchant Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 hi, Derick Could he just be bringing in camera closer, and using a larger aperture? I persoanlly was very moved by "In the Mood". If your at Lodz this year you can ask him, although you may not get a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Shani Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 hi go to googel you will find a lot of things about him one good link My Webpage ram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Wells Posted September 23, 2005 Share Posted September 23, 2005 I have no concreate idea of what "step printed" means in post production. Is that part of the standard processing process and transfer to to Telecine?? Can anyone elaborate? i.e can I during a low budget 16mm shoot, try this out? even though I'm going to telecine after processing? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> "step printing" in Telecine is pretty easy - transfer at 12 fps, 6 fps, etc. If you're staying in video / digital from then on.. -Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Kubicki Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 hi, Derick Could he just be bringing in camera closer, and using a larger aperture? I persoanlly was very moved by "In the Mood". If your at Lodz this year you can ask him, although you may not get a reply. How do you know he'll be at camerimage this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFern Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Hello All, For the Chris Doyle fan (I know I should be more specific!). If you haven't already check out 'The Quiet American', awesome stuff especially the nighttime sequences. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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