Boris bruno Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 What are the best affordable places to scan 16mm. Best quality scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Majewski Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I am using Cinelab. They are great people and fast too. Also located not far from you in New Bedford MA www.cinelab.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Samaras Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I have my scanning performed with MetPost in NYC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris bruno Posted July 16, 2020 Author Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, George Majewski said: I am using Cinelab. They are great people and fast too. Also located not far from you in New Bedford MA www.cinelab.com Yeah I heard of them it’s just I seen a lot of bad reviews about them so I was a little hesitant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Sponsor Robert Houllahan Posted July 17, 2020 Site Sponsor Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Boris bruno said: Yeah I heard of them it’s just I seen a lot of bad reviews about them so I was a little hesitant Hi We run millions of feet of film every year in 8mm 16mm and 35mm and over the years there have been some complaints, most of our "bad reviews" on google or whatever are from people who did not understand the process well or had expectations which were out of this world. One review was from a student who was mad her 35mm 500ft roll took too long and we gave her a free scan and this was while we were running two or three feature films simultaneously. Like any lab we have had some mistakes but we do a good job and offer a very wide range of services and scan options. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris bruno Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, Robert Houllahan said: Hi We run millions of feet of film every year in 8mm 16mm and 35mm and over the years there have been some complaints, most of our "bad reviews" on google or whatever are from people who did not understand the process well or had expectations which were out of this world. One review was from a student who was mad her 35mm 500ft roll took too long and we gave her a free scan and this was while we were running two or three feature films simultaneously. Like any lab we have had some mistakes but we do a good job and offer a very wide range of services and scan options. Ok thanks I will give Cinelab a try. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted July 17, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 Cinelab does a good job, and Rob is a stand-up guy. If there's a problem, he will do his best to fix it. I like the work they do, and their 4K/5K scans are great! Ask for the negative to be cleaned before the scan for the best results. Here are some film scans from earlier this year that Cinelab processed and scanned for me: (graded and downscaled to 2K in Resolve from a 5K open gate scan) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Tyler Purcell Posted July 17, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 If you're in Boston, Cinelab or Gamma Ray Digital. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris bruno Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Satsuki Murashige said: Cinelab does a good job, and Rob is a stand-up guy. If there's a problem, he will do his best to fix it. I like the work they do, and their 4K/5K scans are great! Ask for the negative to be cleaned before the scan for the best results. Here are some film scans from earlier this year that Cinelab processed and scanned for me: (graded and downscaled to 2K in Resolve from a 5K open gate scan) Amazing wow Cinelab is really good im going to try them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris bruno Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Tyler Purcell said: If you're in Boston, Cinelab or Gamma Ray Digital. I heard of gamma ray digital I just never seen any examples in f their scans. I’ll take a look at them. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Ivanov Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Satsuki Murashige said: Cinelab does a good job, and Rob is a stand-up guy. If there's a problem, he will do his best to fix it. I like the work they do, and their 4K/5K scans are great! Ask for the negative to be cleaned before the scan for the best results. Here are some film scans from earlier this year that Cinelab processed and scanned for me: (graded and downscaled to 2K in Resolve from a 5K open gate scan) Is it 16mm? what film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel D. Teoli Jr. Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Boris bruno said: I heard of gamma ray digital I just never seen any examples in f their scans. I’ll take a look at them. Thank you I had a number of 16mm scans done by Gamma Ray Digital. But bear in mind they only scanned archival material for me. I have no experience with them with modern films. Here are 2 raw 16mm scans with no postprocessing that Gamma Ray did for me. Here is another one Gamma Ray did for me. YouTube banned me over this one, so I put up on I.A. https://archive.org/details/GemsOfSongDeannaDurbinD.D.TeoliJr.A.C. Perry is very knowledgeable and I was generally happy with Gamma Ray's work. But I eventually stopped using them. The issue were: Very Expensive to get commercial scans done for 3/4 million+ feet of film They refused to scan some of the material due to content. (But this was not an issue limited only to Gamma Ray. Some commercial scanning companies were even more strict with content issues.) Since scanning is so $$, I could only afford to do one film at a time. It is a pain in the ass shipping films one at a time as well as risky with rare archival material. (But this is just a minor compliant. If I was rich, I'd ship in bulk if I wanted to get commercial scans.) I eventually decided to do my own scans. I sold my motorcycle for $2,800, borrowed a couple thousand $$ and put the rest on my credit card and bought a Retroscan 2K. Here is a 2K Retroscan I did. NSFW The problem with doing scans yourself is the time. I have many areas I work in and just no time for it all. Any one of these areas has enough work for a lifetime or two. Daniel D.Teoli Jr. Archival Collection Daniel D.Teoli Jr. Small Gauge Film Archive Daniel D.Teoli Jr. VHS Video Archive Daniel D.Teoli Jr. Audio Archive Daniel D.Teoli Jr. Social Documentary Photography Still, if the commercial companies wont scan your films, then you will have to do them yourself. When I got my commercial scans done I didn't know much about post work with video. So everything had to be paid for, even a simple title. I could not afford to get any grading done on my scans, so that is why the raw scans were used. When you get commercial scans done you pay for every little thing. Especially if you were like me and were just learning and knew next to nothing about film handling. For example, a simple name intertitle was quoted at $50. I didn't know some scanning companies don't clean film unless you pay for it, etc. Over time I've learned more about post processing and am fairly competent at working with archival material now. My long term goal is to be able to buy a high quality 4K sound scanner someday. But lotto is not cooperating. If you want to learn about archival preservation of movie films, get some of the Treasures from American Film Archives DVD series and listen to the commentaries. Good luck with your scan OP! Edited July 17, 2020 by Daniel D. Teoli Jr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted July 17, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Max Ivanov said: Is it 16mm? what film? 35mm 4-perf. Kodak 5219 500T. The first three shots were taken on my Arriflex 35-3C with the Atlas Orion 40mm anamorphic. The spherical shots were taken on Cooke S4 Minis. I left in the same ground glass, so you can see how the spherical shots are framed slightly off-center, due to the extra width of S35 versus Academy width. We were shooting a project on the Alexa Mini and I had a camera operator for both days, so I had time to mess around with the ‘B camera.’ I mainly wanted to show the director what 35mm film would look like in a side-by-side test. He loved the look even more than the Alexa Mini, so hopefully he will want to shoot a whole project on it someday! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Satsuki Murashige Posted July 17, 2020 Premium Member Share Posted July 17, 2020 Here’s the 3C with the Atlas Orion lens at prep: Rather top heavy with a 400’ mag, not so stable for handheld. I think I will stick to either a 200’ mag or use the Moviecam next time! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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