Premium Member Dimitrios Koukas Posted September 24, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted September 24, 2005 Hello, Most of the time I have used the tiffen's Pro-mists 1/4/and 1/2,(Not the Black ones), what is their relation to similar filters in the market like Schneider optics or B+W if there is one. Thank you in advance. Dimitrios Koukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Barker Posted September 24, 2005 Share Posted September 24, 2005 I use the excellant Formatt 4x4's including 1/2 Black Supermist #1 Black Supermist 1/4 Clear Supermist #2 Black Net Prior to that I used Tiffen screw-ins. In terms of softening and light loss, I can tell no difference whatever. I had a long conversation with a senior engineer from Schneider once and he pretty much confirmed that general equivalency exists throughout the industry. Formatt makes a big deal about the quality of their glass, while Schneider like to be thought of as cutting-edge, but I think the end results are all pretty much the same/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dimitrios Koukas Posted September 25, 2005 Author Premium Member Share Posted September 25, 2005 I use the excellant Formatt 4x4's including 1/2 Black Supermist #1 Black Supermist 1/4 Clear Supermist #2 Black Net Prior to that I used Tiffen screw-ins. In terms of softening and light loss, I can tell no difference whatever. I had a long conversation with a senior engineer from Schneider once and he pretty much confirmed that general equivalency exists throughout the industry. Formatt makes a big deal about the quality of their glass, while Schneider like to be thought of as cutting-edge, but I think the end results are all pretty much the same/ <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for your reply. Are u fun of airplanes m8? I hold a PPL. Dimitrios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Michael Nash Posted October 6, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hello,Most of the time I have used the tiffen's Pro-mists 1/4/and 1/2,(Not the Black ones), what is their relation to similar filters in the market like Schneider optics or B+W if there is one. Thank you in advance. Dimitrios Koukas Diffusion filters tend to come in two basic varieties; those that have a light-scattering substance in the glass, and those that have a texture to disturb the light path on the way to the lens. There are some that do both, and with different color qualities as well. In general the light-scattering type like Tiffen's Pro Mist cause more flare or halation in the highlights than they do softening to image, relative to the filter's strength. They also lower the contrast more as you increase the strength (White Pro Mist fogging the blacks the most). Schnieder's equivalent are called "Frost." The textured type uses the surface of the glass in the form of bumps or "lenslets" to diffuse the light path. These filters tend to soften or blur the image more than they cause flare or halation, and usually don't alter the contrast at all. Tiffen's version is called "Soft FX," and Schneider's are called "Classic Softs." http://www.tiffen.com/results.html?search_...t=Larger+Format http://www.schneideroptics.com/filters/fil...fusion_filters/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Barker Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 (edited) Thanks for your reply.Are u fun of airplanes m8? I hold a PPL. Dimitrios Yeah, me too. SEL, Night VFR. Are those David Clark's you are wearing in your avatar? Edited October 6, 2005 by Jack Barker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Dimitrios Koukas Posted October 7, 2005 Author Premium Member Share Posted October 7, 2005 Yeah, me too. SEL, Night VFR.Are those David Clark's you are wearing in your avatar? :) Indeed! Happy flying m8. Dimitrios Koukas Diffusion filters tend to come in two basic varieties; those that have a light-scattering substance in the glass, and those that have a texture to disturb the light path on the way to the lens. There are some that do both, and with different color qualities as well. In general the light-scattering type like Tiffen's Pro Mist cause more flare or halation in the highlights than they do softening to image, relative to the filter's strength. They also lower the contrast more as you increase the strength (White Pro Mist fogging the blacks the most). Schnieder's equivalent are called "Frost." The textured type uses the surface of the glass in the form of bumps or "lenslets" to diffuse the light path. These filters tend to soften or blur the image more than they cause flare or halation, and usually don't alter the contrast at all. Tiffen's version is called "Soft FX," and Schneider's are called "Classic Softs." http://www.tiffen.com/results.html?search_...t=Larger+Format http://www.schneideroptics.com/filters/fil...fusion_filters/ Thanks Mike, Is it supposed that the schneiders are using better quality optics? (glass). Dimitrios Koukas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Member Michael Nash Posted October 10, 2005 Premium Member Share Posted October 10, 2005 Is it supposed that the schneiders are using better quality optics? (glass). Well, that's what the Schneider reps will tell you! ;) But you'd have to test for yourself and see which results you like best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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