Jim Jannard

We did NOT build this camera to replace film (see my posts from 8 or 9 months ago). I love the look of film. We did this project to offer an alternative to film. One that looked "filmic". A digital camera with a full size 35mm sensor (with wonderful focus fall-off) and an image that did NOT look like over-sharpened HD. The idea was to put a camera in the hands of many that was a credible alternative to film and void of the costs and process of film. Not rocket science. Just another tool to be used in filmaking. I guess the initial harsh reaction here caused me to get a bit defensive. Sorry about that. I knew we would get there and many believed we wouldn't. Given the history of "claims" by others, I get why the strong rejection. Hopefully, the footage our camera is making will open the door to a change in thinking. We need to earn respect, not demand it. I hope we are beginning to do that. Jim

Sorry... Peter Jackson (Academy Award winning Director)= thumbs up, Richard Boddington (Death Dealer)= thumbs down. Jim

Richard... if you weren't such a pain in the ass, you would be really funny. Peter Jackson got two Alpha prototypes and the very next day he started shooting. The "test shoot" lasted two days. He and his team had one week to do post and deliver to NAB. They had never worked with digital. And you are comparing the results with Oliver Twist? hehe... just are just too fu**ing funny. I'm not sure why you have a hair up your ass, but it has gotten you your 15 minutes of fame. I give you that. Your PM's are priceless. Your steadfast opposition is unwavering. If you ever put your determined will to the test in a positive way, you would be a rock star. OK, you got a response from me. Is that what you wanted? I am sure this post will incite you to further remarks (that I will not ever again respond to). But you did get your way. I hope you are smiling and happy. Have a beer. But you are now on my "ignore" list. My best to you. Final score- Peter Jackson= thumbs up. Richard Boddington= thumbs down. Jim

I'll keep this post with me until next Monday... Jim

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Fatigue you... Jim

You are right... hold your opinions until NAB... :-) Jim

Actually... no. From the beginning, this board has been negative. If I'd have listened to this board, we would have never done this camera. I guess there is some satisfaction that this board has inspired us to continue. Jim

That didn't stop anyone before from posting... Jim

It is quite interesting that as soon as it was announced that Timur was shooting RED for "Wanted"... this board got very quiet. Jim

I won't speak for Timur, but other directors and DP's have told us that the image is not the reason why they will use RED as a VFX or second camera in the beginning. The primary reason is that the camera is not fully feature enabled as of today and it will take some time to get studios comfortable with the risk of a new camera. We expect that one success will lead to others (actually, there are several in the works now). We have been told that the major advantages of RED to film are 1. the image quality, 2. the convenience of the workflow, and 3. the cost of production. In that order. We are pretty happy with the response to our project. We still have a lot of work to do. After all, we started from scratch just 15 months ago. I hope all, including the respectful skeptics, will take a look at our program at NAB to see why it is a candidate for major motion picture productions, as well as indie projects. Jim

Not what you just described... Jim

Not sure where you got your info... but I have no knowledge of anyone in the UK getting one of the 1st cameras or having access to one. Jim

"Director Timur Bekmambetov of Bazlevs Film in Moscow, has chosen the RED ONE digital camera for all the digital cinematography used in Universal Pictures', WANTED, staring Angelia Jolie, Morgan Freeman and James McAvoy. Though the body of the movie will be shot in film, there is a substantial digital component to the filming which will be used by Bekmambetov's VFX and production company in Russia. Wanted begins shooting in Prague in April, 2007." Jim

Ken told me on the phone that he was going to post and I told him that was OK with me... Jim

My recommendation is for all RED reservation holders and all those truly interested in the possibilities of the RED camera... stop posting here. Wait until after NAB. Let the camera speak for itself. Jim

Ken... with all due respect, I am tired of sparring with members on this board. And my accusation is not false. Mr. Rhodes has been disrespectful from day one, both on the board and in PM's. The example I stated was incorrect. But the accusation is not. You are correct, however, I do find myself stooping to a level of frustration that is bringing out the worst in my behavior. It is the reason I stopped trying here 4 months ago and the reason I will permanently leave now. You sound like a nice guy. For fun, when you have time, read some posts from the beginning of this RED forum. It makes for interesting reading. As for the leap from less than elegant posts to how we will deal with warrany issues, I'm not quite sure how you did that. Oakley has been an example of customer service for 31 years. No matter. This is obviously not a place for me. My best to you all. Jim

My apologies, Mr. Rhodes, for not remembering which times it was you and which times it was someone else. It is hard to keep track. Jim

Ken... I agree with most of what you said. The one thing I disagree with is that Mr. Rhodes has pulled out the inference of lying on several occasions, including inferring that we staged the break-in at the RED offices (quite an illegal activity BTW) and faking our footage. Oh, I forgot... paying off David Stump. I can not see that being called anything but destructive and disrespectful heckling. I do agree that it is best to keep our heads down and make it to the finish line. We get productive suggestions on other boards so I will concentrate my focus there until we are done. At that time, I'll be happy to return here and field valid questions about our shipping product. The speculation will be over. Additionally, for those that are interested, we are not just talking about our development. We have posted 4K images and footage on several boards. We have included green screen 4K grabs shot by David Stump. We have shown the evolution of the system, body and accessories. Most of the changes to the system are a result of feedback we received. I am happy that we tried an open platform for development. We have had suggestions from many people that have influenced our progress. I expect that our program will continue to evolve after we begin shipping. Maybe I can encourage posters here to join in with suggestions at that time. My best to you all until after NAB. Jim

Of course we will show 4K footage at NAB and have working cameras there along with our REDCINE workflow. Other announcements at NAB. We'll be right next to Apple if you are looking for us. Jim

Scott... you might be right (probably are). I am just so over the inference that we are liars that my frustration shows in my posts. From yesterday... "In short, you give every appearance that you are working as hard as possible to make it appear that you are lying, that you are acting from commercial rather than technical motives, that you do not have the abilities and technologies you claim to have." Imagine the amount of work we have to do and what we have accomplished just to hear this stuff. I do take it personally. This is my project. If my frustration leaks out, at least you know why. The only thing I am worried about is taking care of the 1500 customers that believe in our project. I will do everything in my power to not let them down. I just don't do well with disrespect. And it bothers me even more when it is directed to one of my team members that is #1 brilliant and #2 working his ass off for the cause. I apologize to the respectful here on the board for my words if they are too harsh. But the disrespectful probably need not visit the booth at NAB. Jim These are in the original specs from a year ago, but I appreciate the effort to contribute. I'll ignore the back end of your post. Jim

And your constructive suggestion on what we can do to make our camera better is? A feature set you are interested in? Some suggestion on which accessories you use to make sure they are compatible with our system? I guess I missed it. Jim

The "debate", criticism (packaged in disrespect) and heckling here has not helped our project one bit. I came here asking for suggestions. I have been treated to being called a liar (several times by more than one person) and told that we cannot do this project. I have listened to mindless debate of why film is better than the product we are building. That 4.9K bayer is really 1K. There is no productivity here. Only those who use this forum (the RED one at least) to be a counterpoint to all the fans we are generating elsewhere. I encourage anyone to look back at the last year of posts here and find ONE suggestion of merit. One that wasn't posted somewhere else 1st. Just one post of a suggestion that would make our project better. With only irritation here and honest suggestions elsewhere, where would you go if you were me? We have stepped up to go toe to toe with Sony, Panasonic and the rest of the industry at the top. I do not consider Mr. Rhodes worthy of the time to engage based on disrespectfulness alone. If this board is bent on an adversarily relationship with RED, it wastes the very purpose of this board. Jim

Practical details? We are in development. We have shown 4k footage (from a 4.9K sensor). Major studios have seen it (one CTO said it should be compared to 65mm film and not 35mm). David Stump had the camera in his hands to shoot green screen. This with our early prototype. His reaction was that we surpassed 35mm film in resolution and color. What do you want from us? Why should we explain our methodology to you? We have a camera to finish and deliver to 1500 customers. We don't need to be called liars, or have some heckler tell us we have a 1k resolution camera. The most successful director in the 2000's (with Academy Award) has seen the footage 1st hand. He has his order in. So tell me again what it is you want? What kind of argument you want to engage in? What verbal format you need to show off your expertise? Quite frankly, we have all the expertise we need. And we are not interested to waste time on this. Jim

For what purpose? There is a big difference between critics and hecklers. Jim