Jay Taylor

Hey guys,

After hearing all the hype about "you won't be able to tell apart the actors from the cg characters", I watched the trailer expecting to be blown away.

And I absolutely wasn't.

Looks like a video game to me. I really don't have any interest in seeing this, but I probably will just because of the damn hype.

Jay

Paul,

Didn't the Grandeur use 4 perforations instead of 5? If that's the case, might be difficult to find any labs setup to process it properly.

Jay

Alright guys,

I appreciate the help!

Jay

The slots that you've used to move the formers are big enough to make an adjustment that will make the loop one sprocket/frame bigger than it should be, make sure that aint the case or your loop may be hitting the loop formers just before every pull down ...

 

The other nasty way is just to bend the formers themselves - flimsy things ;)

Hey Chris,

Well, what I noticed was stopping the formers from staying in place was the bottom one was hitting the gate. So when I adjusted it I only moved it far enough to just BARELY miss the gate, and allow the formers to click into place.

Does that sound about right?

Jay

And…

It worked! I appreciate the help!

Jay

Hi Jay,

 

Maybe the loop formers are hitting the top or the bottom of the gate before it can reach the position where they lock in place.

Behind each loop former is a little screw. When you loosen it, it allows you to adjust the angle of the loop formers a little bit.

The loop former should lock just before they touch the gate.

 

Cheers,

Jean-Louis

Jean-Louis,

I'm going to try your suggestion and see if that helps. I'll let you know what happens.

Thanks,

Jay

Hey,

I didn't read the entire thread, but Du-All Camera offers an overhaul for $350. Check it out…

http://www.duallcamera.com/services/index.shtml

It's at the very bottom of that page.

Jay

Hey,

Anyone know how to fix the loop formers?

Here's the problem. When I move the lever down, the loop formers move into place, but when I let go of the lever, they pop back open. Something's not clicking into place to hold the loop formers where they belong.

Anyone ever have this problem? Is it something I could fix on my own, or am I better off sending it somewhere?

Thanks,

Jay

Duplicate post…

Tom,

This is absolutely mind-boggling to me that people would be arguing AGAINST the progression of technology and more resolution for display by those watching entertainment at home. :blink:

No one's against progression of technology. 4k in the home isn't needed! HDTV hasn't taken off the way you seem to think it has, so why would 4k?

I remember when people on this very forum were saying that 4K digital cameras were "not needed." Now every camera company on earth has completely ceased designing new 35mm film cameras and is racing to build 4K and 6K digital RAW cameras. What happened to all those the predictions here about film continuing to rule cinema?

Right. Both Panavision and Arriflex threw out all their film cameras so that they could build Red knockoffs!

Also, last time I checked, most movies the big studios are putting out are done on film. That doesn't count as "ruling cinema"?

I remember being on DSLR forums were people said, "You don't need megapixels beyond 8MP! The human eye... blah blah blah." What happened to all those predictions? You can now buy a 21MP DSLR for under 3 grand that blows the doors off of any 8MP camera ten times over, and photographers are still craving more and more and more resolution and better sensitivity.

The biggest reason for higher mega-pixels is for enlargements! And photographers are NOT craving more and more resolution. They do want better sensitivity, better color reproduction, etc, etc. Basically, they want everything BUT resolution improved. Resolution is taken care of! Unless you need to fill a billboard.

If anyone honestly thinks that 1080p is "enough," I would advise them to look at the recent history of the adoption of technological innovations. I remember many people also arguing on AV forums that DVD would be "enough" resolution. "You don't need more than DVD resolution.... the human eye blah blah blah...." very similar to what Walter is actually arguing here! What happened to all the predictions that DVD would be "enough" resolution for consumers? Those predictions are now in the dustbin along with the "8MP" DSLR and "4K cameras not needed" predictions, where they will soon be joined by the "4K resolution is not needed for consumers" predictions. You can take that to the bank. ;)

They're obviously not in the dust. More people watch SD DVD then they do Blu-Ray. In fact, a lot of people watch more crappy resolution youtube videos, and low resolution clips on their cell-phones then they watch television at all.

Jay

Steve,

Sorry about that! :unsure:

Yeah, I thought 20% seemed high as well. Although, I discussed one of my projects with him. I'm estimating it to be around 60 minutes, and he thought it'd be around $12-12.5k for all the audio post. Maybe you could figure $12k per hour? 90 minutes would cost $18k?

Jay

Hey again,

I talked to Mark Duvall of Happen-Stance Productions here in Nashville, and he thinks it's a good rule of thumb to plan 20% of your budget going to audio post.

So there you go! Does that help any?

Jay

James,

I was just about to ask this same question!

Anyone? How much is generally spent on audio post?

Jay

Hey,

Anyone know where I can find an old rack-over Mitchell? Preferably a GC or HS? The Fries was more than I needed.

Thanks,

Jay

Hey there,

This isn't exactly the same thing, but I thought about what Stanley Kubrick did on 2001 to simulate the actors floating around in space…

He had the actors suspended on strings, but had them, and the camera, upside down. So instead of it looking as though they were swinging around on strings, it gave it a strange floating quality.

Maybe something like this could be worked out for faking underwater movement?

BTW, is that at all accurate? I can't remember where I read that about 2001…

Jay

Hey,

A while back I sent Dan an email, and his wife responded saying he was in the hospital, but that he should be out in a couple of weeks. Of course, this was months ago. Hope he's alright.

Someone you might be able to talk to is Ken Stone. He specializes in Mitchell camera's, but he sells the Norris systems, too. He might be able to sell you an adaptor. His number is 661-242-8490, and his cell is 805-358-2803.

Hope that helps!

Jay

A single short film wouldn't do too well on DVD. .. but a collection of them, well if they're good enough might. . .Short Films are akin in a lot of ways to self promotion; they don't really make money but get you out there and allow you to build credibility as a filmmaker.

$2500 is cheap. Finance it yourself, own it all, and make sure it goes out to fests and get's received Then you also own all the profit [however unlikely] the film may make.

Hey Adrian,

Well, if the short was really good, and you had a LOT of bonus features on the dvd?

But yeah, I do agree with you. I guess the best thing to do is use the short as a business card. If the film turned out well enough maybe it would be a little incentive for investors to help you out on your next film.

Jay

Hey Tyler,

I agree with Richard. You could put the $2500 on a credit card if you had to. It's not much money at all. You could probably save up for yourself, and maybe get some friends and family to chip in.

I've looked into grants before, and to be honest, I've never been able to find one! If someone knows where these grants are, do let us know.

FYI, me and one other guy are each saving up four to five thousand for a short of our own. We may see about entering into some film festivals, but I keep hearing that the festivals aren't really very helpful. You might be better off making the film, then putting it on dvd, and setting up a website.

Good luck!

Jay

Hey,

And here I was budgeting around $10,000 just to do a short film. :huh:

Jay

What's your picture acquisition format on this project? Also, were your dialogue tracks recorded on analogue tape? You can run an analogue multitrack with SMPTE on one track. The rest of the gear in a facility should be able to chase that. However, you may need to supply (or pay additional rental for) the analogue multitrack, depending on the facility.

Hey,

I'm planning on shooting 35mm. No dialogue.

I hadn't thought of having the tape machine synced to the protools rig, although I am aware it's something that's easily done. I suppose I'll need to talk to some of these studios directly to see if it's something they'd consider doing.

Do these post houses project the reels while doing the sound in protools, or do they use video dailies? I was planning on editing traditionally, avoiding the telecine.

Maybe I'm making things too hard on myself?

Jay

Hey Tom,

No need to apologize. I appreciate the help!

Check out this video I found on youtube that discusses foley?

At about the 4 minute mark it shows the reel-to-reels they used, each having four tracks. It actually looks like they're recording directly to 35mm mag stock, but I could be wrong about that.

In the video description it mentions Danetracks, and JDH Sound. Can't find anything about JDH Sound, but Danetracks has a website. They do mention having a 24 track, but they only bring it up when mentioning transfer services. So I doubt they do any of their sound design, or mixing, that way.

I think I may be out of luck. <_<

Jay

Hey Tom,

I don't have a problem finding a recording studio that has a tape machine. After all, I am in Nashville. :)

The problem I'm having is finding a studio that does sound design/foley traditionally. I'll have to talk to some of these studios, but I doubt they're setup for projecting prints, and recording to tape.

I've mostly been looking through mandy.com, and all the audio post houses use protools for that stuff. I'm wanting the entire soundtrack recorded, and mixed, in analog. Although, I'm starting to think it just isn't available anymore.

Jay

Hey,

Does anyone know of any audio post studios that offer analog recording? The music isn't a problem, but if I'm wanting sound effects, foley, etc., it looks like everybody just uses protools.

I know it might sound silly, but I was hoping I could do everything traditionally, without using any computers, or digital anything. It's a challenge, don't be angry. :lol:

Did all the studios that specialize in this field throw out their analog reel-to-reels?

Jay

Jay some things on hype:

 

http://discussionleader.hbsp.com/quelch/20...urt_boeing.html

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/...70327113414.htm

Hey Adrian,

Thanks for the articles. Very interesting.

It helps to understand why there was quite a bit of disappointment over at the red forums after the Nov. 13th announcements.

The way they word their announcements causes these insane expectations that could never be lived up to.

Jay

Hey there,

I read those threads about the new "breakthroughs", and it's actually kinda shocking to see some of the people over there are actually commenting on being tired of all the hype. I thought those people LOVED the hype!

Has there ever been any business studies, or marketing studies, showing a point in which product hype can actually hurt a product and/or company?

I remember one of the threads going when Nov. 13th was coming up. I believe it was THE Nov. 13th thread. The user "Big Jon", I think it was, made a post about the announcement, and then I noticed it was taken down immediately. So unfortunately, I have no proof of this since it's gone. But his post was saying something along the lines of how the announcement would be one of the things you remember through life. Marriage, kids, etc? he was claiming the announcement of a camera system is every bit as significant a day as your wedding, or birth of your first child.

That was probably the most insane post I ever read over there. But like I said, I noticed it was taken down almost immediately. Maybe Jim saw it and realized it was too much hype to live up to?

Anyways, I'm assuming the announcement for Dec. 3rd will be improved sensor specs.

Jay