Chris Walters

Hey I love the clip very well lit. Were the clothes dancing together green-screened? Very nice job.

Chris Walters

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Thanks for the responces guys. I did find the source 4s and have worked with them on set. Amazing light really can't go on with out one. I think i might end up buying a few of those instead and rent par cans probably cheaper that way. But thank you for the advice.

Chris Walters

I'm looking at putting together a light package and came across Chauvet par 64s that are roughly only 35 dollars from a reputable website however the mole par cans are around 100 dollars... no bulbs or clamps are included in both. Does anyone have any insight on this. Because if Chauvet is good why not go with a cheaper price if its only the body of the light anyway. I'm also looking a few lekos... is there any difference in source 4s and other lekos. I know they started in theater, but are there models that have certain perks for film use?

Thank you in advance for your advise.

Chris Walters

Hey kev I'm trying to think of the logistics of this.. if its 500fps or 1000fps how big is the mag and how long are you filming for. I've never heard anything bigger than 1000 ft roll or is that just enough to get the shot.

Chris Walters

By the way that music video shoot looked awesome but that wrap sucked hard!

That is some camera! Is that available in the US yet? whats the price range. I might want to get my hands on that thing. The high speed stuff looked amazing!

I've heard such great things about zoom lens quality improving and I really love the speed of changing focal length with a twist. Besides aesthetics is there any other reason for using primes or are do they still have a noticible better resolution.

Thanks for the replys

Chris

Ps. I do know anamorphic zooms are different so I'm only asking about spherical lenses at this point... unless anyone has insite on them too.

If your looking for the future look you can go with what other films set in the future have done. Take Minority Report for example.. the industrial, clean crisp, contrasty with a green-silver unsaturated edge to it. Although this is the way I see typical futuristic. Have fun with it, its really up to you and if you feel the audience will believe its from the future.

Chris

Nicely done, some of the night shots were a little too dark for my taste. It's just as easy to create "darkness" through contrast as it is through general underexposure. Just an idea for future projects.

 

But a nice short, well done!

Thank you for the suggestion. I realized after shooting how to make the hallway a lot more cinematic but obviously being rushed on set and not having the years of experience as I will soon :-)... I agree looking back on it the night scene is bland and need contrast. I should have exposed the background causing her to fall in shadow and side light her as she passed the bathroom.. oh well shoot and learn right. :-)

For shooting TV's, people adjust their shutter angle to 144 to sync up with the TV's scan. A 90 degree shutter angle will get you that Private Ryan or Gladiator effect by eliminating the motion blur from the action.

 

I know a few DP's out there when going for slow motion like to shoot even higher frame rates than 48, so if it turns out to be too slow, they can always speed it up a bit more in post if perhaps 48 turned out to be good enough.

 

I don't see too many people shooting under 24 fps unless it's for some weird old timey effect. For your own experience though, you might wanna consider shooting a roll at various frame rates to see the effects. For instance, you'll notice the motion blur that occurs when shooting 12 fps, requiring you to close down the shutter in accordance.

Thank you so much... do you know the corrilation between the fps and the shutter... if its 12fps would you double the shutter speed to elimnate the motion blur?

I was wondering if there are any typical shutter speeds that give you certain results. Like how f-stops give you a mathmatical amount light reaching the film plane. Obviously 180 is the normal, but are their any typical shutter speeds the most people shoot to get a certain effect like the over used example of Saving Private Ryan.

 

Also in terms of fps I understand the slo-motion and sped up trick of alter the fps, but are there standard fps to get a desired effect or does it all depend on the speed of the action. I understand that if you want something to go half as fast you shoot at 48 fps and obvious twice as fast at 12, but are there a general numbers DPs use or is it something they just test for. Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction.

 

Chris

To add to my last question, when changing the fps mid shot do you change the fstop to compensate for the increase or decrease in exposure? I think this is whats called ramping. Is this done by hand or is there a device that compensates when you change the speed. Or can the shutter speed that is sometimes changed? OR is all this done in post?

Color manipulation in post. A lot of that is color mainpulation in post. Its kinda freaky going form dailies to finished product sometimes. Watch army of darkness dvd delete scenes and look at the color correction that was done to the footage. wow.

Thats really disapointing when I hear it was done in post lol. I'm a person who loves to do as much in camera as possible while still having wiggle room in post to fix things. But I still like the style so I can't complain as long as its done right!

I was wondering if there are any typical shutter speeds that give you certain results. Like how f-stops give you a mathmatical amount light reaching the film plane. Obviously 180 is the normal, but are their any typical shutter speeds the most people shoot to get a certain effect like the over used example of Saving Private Ryan.

Also in terms of fps I understand the slo-motion and sped up trick of alter the fps, but are there standard fps to get a desired effect or does it all depend on the speed of the action. I understand that if you want something to go half as fast you shoot at 48 fps and obvious twice as fast at 12, but are there a general numbers DPs use or is it something they just test for. Thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction.

Chris

I'm actually watching Mission Impossible 3 right now and they have a great interesting color pallete and I can see how they have lit each scene, except for one that has a steel blue tint to it the background is metal and it is very cold and almost pale look on the actors faces, yet parts of this scene they have normal looking (flesh tone) skin. I'm wondering how they achieved this.

I have noticed in other movies where most of the image is some off color, green, blue or what have you but the actors appear normal skin toned. Are they just being over powered with a balanced key light? I love to mix colors, but my over all question is how to keep the actors looking normal while still having the mix. I do know about seperate background lights so if its just as simple as that then let me know as well because I might just be over complicating it.

Thank you

Chris

If conrad hall were alive today...but I guess kevin Zanit will do :P wait I already have. I actually got to see Astronaut Farmer on a plane from Europe and was very impressed with the visuals and I haven't seen very many forums where David has not responded to a question so he has my highest respect.

Heres a couple of pictures I've taken with the Sony Alpha DSLR, woudl like some consteructive feedback if anybody has some time on their hands. Will be very much apprechiated.

 

Well, here the first one, and before you see it, if i were to do it again, i would have had a lower ISO. Still think it turned out ok though.

 

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/42875386/

 

I was just waling to somebodys place if i remember correctly and saw this and decided to take a pic. Thought it turned out ok. Both colours and (whats this called in english again... english is actually my first language... just speak too much norwegian nowadays...)... whats it called again? composure? The way the picture is set up.

 

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/43043179/

 

These pics are a bit old but they're the onyl ones i have online right now.

 

Peace

 

Andrew

Is that first picture from The Notre Dame in Paris I have a similar picture but it won't let me attach it...

It was a close up shot of the shift knob in the car at 1000fps (a water drop onto it).

I was gonna say kev 12k from 4 ft away seems a bit much lol, but if your going that fast i guess you would have to be a light hog

Hey Guys sorry I can't imbed the movie here but check out a short a shot with a good director friend of mine. Its not a school project but we both go to Cal State Northridge Film school. I'll try to put up my very first film project - S16 for school asap. Love to get input and any advice. We shot on F-900 which was a lot of fun! S16 was on Panavision elaine. Enjoy

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I think he overexposed the stock by two stops, pulled one stop in processing, and then printed the rest down. I may be mistaken but he describes his technique in the forum section of his website: www.rogerdeakins.com. You can go there and get it from the man himself.

Great find Richard thank you very much for sharing that with me.

Chris

I'm not sure where else to put this post but I was wondering if it is possible to save individual posts that someone shares because there is a pleathora of information i want to reference for later (especially from David Mullen!) with out having to search the archives again. Is that something anyone knows how to do with in this webpage or should I just copy it on to a word doc.

Thanks and best reguards

Chris

Hey does anyone know if Courge under Fire shot by Rodger Deakins, used bleach by pass or did he just over expose the hightlights? Also I'm noticing a lot of military films are using this technique. Is it because it gives it a sense of surealism and visually jarring?

 

Thanks for the responces.

 

Chris Walters

Sorry i can't spell it right on either the message or post lol

Courage Under Fire!!

Chris

Hey does anyone know if Courge under Fire shot by Rodger Deakins, used bleach by pass or did he just over expose the hightlights? Also I'm noticing a lot of military films are using this technique. Is it because it gives it a sense of surealism and visually jarring?

Thanks for the responces.

Chris Walters

I don't think very highly about what you just wrote, and I cited a reference you could actually check out before opening your mouth.

Alessandro, I appologise that was a very rude comment, and I'm not sure why I phrased it the way I did. Again I'm sorry for posting that. I agree with David in this debate, but clearly my comment was uncalled for.

Chris Walters

I've been watching a lot of recent movies that share the behind the scenes of some really great movies. But have noticed they only focus on the director and the story and don't really share much about the DP's style or visual language. I was wondering if any one else noticed this or can suggest movies that have great BTS on the DP. Cause I love learning about new techniques or styles of some great movies.

Thank you

Chris

In the camera assistants forum there is one thread currently active, called Cookes vs Ultra Primes.

 

As long as you do a search with 2 different lens names, say Zeiss and Cooke, you are bound to find information.

Thank you guys... I appreciate your help, I meant no disrespect but I was frustrated that the search kept saying no results could be found. I didn't mean to make any one else do all the work for me, I just meant that if you recently posted something or remember reading about it to point me in that direction instead of telling me I should look for it. Becasue obviously were all looking for some thing ;) whether it be questions or answers. Thank you again max and David I do appreciate you help.

Chris Walters

Do a search of the archives here, it has been discussed numerous times.

I don't mean to be mean, or cause offence but its really silly posting that comment and I've seen it many times on this forum. If your not going to be helpful in at least telling me where to look don't write a comment that doesn't advance my knowledge. I did a search on lens characteristics and didn't find anything I found helpful.

Resectfully

Chris