claire_griffiths

Hi Claire,

 

It would help if you could post some frame grabs of the most offensive images.

 

Don't worry too much about the deadline, although I understand that you are going to Spain so need to haver it done pretty snappy.

Hi Nathan,

Im afraid I can't do that as it is only visible really in moving images, you can't make it out from a still.

We will finish by friday, it will just be not great quality images in the film, perhaps we can sort it out after spain properlly, I don't know! in answer to ur question b4-we are away from 5th aug-5th sep.

Hope you are well.

C x

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To all,

Have decided to edit anyway and hand the film in with the artifacts/aliasing, if its just shown on a tv it could be ok, no time to sort this out as I am away for one month after friday and a month is too long an extention of the deadline!

Personally I feel it is because it was a mini-dv transfer, it seems it is never as good as a digi-beta one. I have tried to do something in final cut about it, it has improved a little.

Thanks for everyones comments that were helpful.

C xx

What kind of editing sysetem are you using. I've had several clients say their transfer had artifacts etc...but it turned out that it wasn't on the tape, but that their computer couldn't properly handle editing video.

 

Dan@Colorlab

I am using a G4 with dual drive thingy (mirror doors version)! with final cut pro 5 to edit with, I feel it should be adiquate? i've never had this problem before when editing much larger amounts of footage together.

ah, uni means university. I get it now.

 

Since you apparently are moving soon, why not spill the beans and say what state or city you are in, why you have a Friday deadline, etc. Maybe someone knows of a place near that they could recommend.

 

In the meantime, edit your film anyways. Films that work tend to work even if they appear a bit too grainy. If you ever retransfer the footage, try and use a similar time code starting point on the video transfer tape and you will be able to replace your already edited images with a better transfer by using your edit decision list.

The place i'm in: England, Brighton. The nearest places to use would be in London, I can't afford London prices, hence why I sent the film to america for telecine. The film is still there!

Friday deadline because I am away visiting boyfriends family for one month in spain starting saturday, the original deadline was august 1st, The project the film is for will probablly all be completed by the time I get back so not really any chance of finishing it then.

Good advice about the time code thingy, will do that thanks!

I didn't understand that sentence.

Sorry I meant I have just finished University, my student loan has ran out and I don't have a job, I used what little I had left to get this stuff telecined and now I have nothing! (need a job!)

I think the problem might be with your camera. That's just judging from what you said about your friend's footage coming back clean.

 

What kind of camera is it? And also how long has it been since you had the body and lens serviced?

 

- Chris Gravat

Personally I do not think it is either camera but:

My super-8 camera is a Nikon R10- but footage shot with it looks fine projected, it is new (to me) and was serviced just before bought and is guarenteed for 6 months.

The camera I used to capture the mini-dv of telecined footage is a canon xm2-this hasn't been serviced since bouught years ago, but the dvd of files sent from the same company also has the aliasing/movement problem.

If you are not in a hurry you might want to ask an entirely different facility to redo the transfer and that will give you a terrific opportunity to compare results. Maybe the new lab is willing to give you a decent price since it is ultimately a test comparison and you've already spent significant money on the transfer. If you don't rush them, than perhaps they give you a good deal on the price.

 

If you transferred to mini-dv, make a fire-wire dub, and send that with the film just in case they want to see what was done the first time.

Im afraid I don't have any time or the money to do this, have just finished uni!

The films deadline is next friday!

but thankyou for the advice

Who did the Telecine, and what machine did the use?

This is the blurb from their site, does this tell you what machine they used? (sorry first-timer, don't know much about the machines) I don't feel comfortable giving out the name of the place yet as I don't want to bad-mouth them if it is my fault (from my expectations being wrong).

******** has a remarkable proprietary Regular and Super 8mm 'WetSystem' telecine process which assures stunning results.

******** is proud to be the premiere Super 8mm Telecine transfer facility in the United States. Our outstanding results via DaVinci, Rank Turbo, and Wetgate are recognized by customers and labs throughout the world. We thank the Internet and our fellow Super 8mm users for making CinePost a Super8 Telecine transfer facility to the world.

is that ANY HElp?

I've just had my first ever telecine service done, it was super-8 film three vision 2 films and one ektachrome, the first tape I got back from them (mini-dv) looked awful, it seemed as if it was all soft focus (perhaps because of the camera I captured with?) but the image really looked just like bad video! Like I had gone back and used some 80's home video camera to shoot with!

I told them I was not happy with the condition of the image, and they sent another lot of telecined footage, this time as files on a dvd, I'm still not happy with the images, although the soft focus issue has gone there is still much aliasing and movement and funny coloured pixels in the darker areas of footage (not just the blacks) but nothing in the whites and again it looks allot like bad video.

I have a friend who's telecined super-8 footage from the same place looked good to me.

Whats going on? Do I have too high expectations of telecined super-8? is there anything I can do to make it look better (in final cut pro)?

I'm not sure whether to ask for another one as I feel it could just be my expectations of telecine that are wrong!

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Claire x

-cross posted to telecine section of this forum

I've just had my first ever telecine service done, it was super-8 film three vision 2 films and one ektachrome, the first tape I got back from them (mini-dv) looked awful, it seemed as if it was all soft focus (perhaps because of the camera I captured with?) but the image really looked just like bad video! Like I had gone back and used some 80's home video camera to shoot with!

I told them I was not happy with the condition of the image, and they sent another lot of telecined footage, this time as files on a dvd, I'm still not happy with the images, although the soft focus issue has gone there is still much aliasing and movement and funny coloured pixels in the darker areas of footage (not just the blacks) but nothing in the whites and again it looks allot like bad video.

I have a friend who's telecined super-8 footage from the same place looked good to me.

Whats going on? Do I have too high expectations of telecined super-8? is there anything I can do to make it look better (in final cut pro)?

I'm not sure whether to ask for another one as I feel it could just be my expectations of telecine that are wrong!

Any help/suggestions would be appreciated,

Thanks,

Claire x

-cross posted to super-8 section also