LiamA

hey all

some of my "industry" vocabulary is pretty poor. please correct me if you know the names of the items i'm trying to describe.

i'm looking in to purchasing some new equipment. i'm in the process of purchasing a canon 7d and i'm purchasing a shoulder rig and matte box with it. fortunately the shoulder rig can already accommodate 15mm iris rods, so the need for a bridge plate isn't necessary. i'm wondering what adapter plate i need to attach a bridge plate (for the iris rods) to a small traditional touch and go plate on a tripod (the one with the twist-screw to attach the camera and the additional locking pin that is in front of it. like this - http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/items/78922.jpg). i understand this isn't the most ideal rig, but right now i cannot afford an additional tripod that has a more traditional quick release plate on it. maybe bridge plates are already able to accommodate this type of touch and go plate, but for some reason i believe it would cause me issues trying to affix my camera to the top of the bridge plate. if any of you understand what i mean can someone point me in the right direction? i am using b&h photo if you are going to post links.

many thanks.

If you would like to test this one roll, I would like to recommend BPS Film Lab in Batavia, IL. They charge $11 for the cart to be developed, and $30 for up to 200 ft. of telecine to Mini DV. I have not tried their telecine services before, but their developing is clean and scratch-free. They don't have a website, but you can contact them by phone: 630-879-8200.

thanks guys. yes, ideally this was my "test" roll per-say. i shot random stuff under different lighting conditions. i inherited the [old] camera from my grandparents so this was also a way for me to see how well the camera shoots. i want to see if it's worth buying more film for. i don't want to shoot several rolls, pay for processing, only to find out that the camera was scratching the film, there were artifacts in the gate, the exposure was off, etc etc.

appreciate the comments. :)

bump.

nothing at all? seriously?

hey guys. just shot my first roll of super 8 vision 2 negative film. the fee to get the film processed is relatively cheap, however the telecine process is quite pricey. seeing as in how i only have one roll right now, how would i "invert" the processed negative film? does it work to DIY telecine the negative and just invert it in a NLE like final cut? for the time being i've put the exposed film in the fridge until i know how i'm going to go about this.

quite new to this, would appreciate some input.

thanks!

Hi all,

Do any of you know of a processing lab in the US that will process and telecine super 8 vision2 200t film? I was told by another user that Vision2 film does not come back ready for projection, so I need to find somewhere that will telecine my film.

Many thanks.

Yes, Vision 200T is always 160T in the Super8 system. There is no 200.

 

BUT remember that negative Kodak films in Super8 are supossed to be "professional" stocks, and "professionals" do not use the internal filter of the camera, but a brand new one screwed directly on the lens, so the internal filter must be disabled (the Vision cartidge with no filter notch disables the filter automtically when you load it). Thus, Kodak negative cartridges, are notched as daylight but contain tungsten film. The problem with your low end camera is that you cannot screw a filter in the front lens, so you must enable the internal filter, by modifying the cartridge of your Vision film: All you have to do is to cut the lower filter notch in the cartridge and there you are a 160T Kodak negative film for your camera.

 

In this case Vision 200T (160T) would not be overexposed with your camera, unless you can work in manual mode for example.

Thank you Miguel. You've been a great help.

You can use Vision 200T in any case because it's a negative film, not reversal, and this type of film has a lot of latitude. It's even recomended to overexpose it 1 stop or more.

That's good to hear since I wasn't able to collect the projector that was originally bought with the camera - too heavy and bulky.

Essentially you're saying that I can in fact use Vision 200T film in my camera even though the max ISO is 160? How over exposed will the film end up being? -- my intention with shooting super 8 film is to gain a better understanding of ISOs, film stock, latitude, longitude, exposure, etc. for a fairly cheap price.

thanks guys! :D

I hate to think that you went to film school and didn't learn anything about film speed. My suggestion would be to read about film speed. Different speeds are going to give you more or less noticeable grain when projected.

Thanks for your response! In regards to what was taught at film school, yes they went over ASAs and ISOs several times, but I'm still a little confused over it. It doesn't make sense that Kodak produces Super 8 film with ISOs that aren't supported by many of the original Super 8 cameras. I will pull out some old text books from school and re-read up on it again. Most of my classes over the past year have been post-production oriented, so information I learned prior is a little rusty.

Right now I just want to film something, but it's irritating me that I can't purchase film within the ISO range of the camera, nor can I add ND filters to the front of the lens to compensate for the light issue. AND, if I do find film that the camera will accurately film on, there's no guarantee that a lab will be able to process it. I guess that's what you get when you attempt to use old fashioned technology!

For the time being I'll just purchase some tri-x film and shoot on that. However, I'd like to shoot in color ideally.

hello

i'm about to become a film school graduate and as a graduation present my grandparents gave me their old super8 camera. it is a keystone xl100 (i know it's not top of the line) and i have a few questions before i start purchasing film and shooting.

i have been reading up on the film stocks available for super 8, and it seems this camera won't accept any of them because the ASA speeds aren't compatible with it. the xl100 accepts ASAs of 25-40 and 100-160. it seems that i can shoot on the ektachrome 100d film stock outside during the day, however i can't film on it inside due to the fact that there's no way to mount an 80a filter to the lens. i believe the asa drops to 25, which is still supported by the camera. additionally i can shoot on tri-x film, however the asa is too high for daylight shooting so therefore it's useless to me. it seems odd to keep switching between ektachrome 100d (color) film for when i'm outside, and switch to b&w tri-x film for when i'm inside.

is film speed *that* important when it comes to super 8? this camera will accept up to a 160 ASA, so if i were to put a Vision2 200T cartridge in it, would it be incredibly over exposed? ideally i would like to use tungsten balanced film in the camera since the camera already comes with a filter built in to shoot outside on tungsten balanced film.

additionally, the camera only films at 18fps which i know will give me issues when it comes to having the footage run through a telecine. is it difficult to have an 18fps film telecined?

i'm really excited to start experimenting with super 8. this will be my first super 8 film, and the first film-film i have shot on my own without the assistance of teachers at school, so any help would be greatly appreciated. i'm looking in to purchasing a canon 814 should i start enjoying filming on super 8. however, since this is my first time, my only option is to use the keystone.