Gregg Hull

Adrian, you're a bit of alright, I don't care what Karl sez about you ;) I already know oodles more than I did, and I will follow up on your advice for sure. What did we all do before there was an internet? I try to remember those pre-web days of old, but it all seems like a hazy dream. Oh, and for the record, I am also as lily white as a polar bear's _____. After asking you what "baller" meant, I asked my kids. Every one of them rolled their eyes and looked at me like I was from another planet. Apparently I am a very old, very white guy.

 

Another question: I have run across this "Red" you spoke of a lot while researching these things. I take it that this is a camera, yes? Interesting that such modern community would be interested in such old lenses, though now that I think about it I can identify some parallels in my own sphere; older machine tools (lathes, mills, etc.) are notoriously heavier and more rigid than today's highly engineered machines, and are able to produce qualities unattainable with modern tools. I imagine that some of these older lenses are valued for similar reasons.

 

I can't thank you enough for your help. You are a credit to this forum. ~G

Baller is a rap video term I appropriated.. associated with Jay-Z.. I think. Don't worry, I'm hard to annoy and I certainly understand your position. I wouldn't want to take them (or you) for a song and a dance, you know. Do your research, just keep me in mind, and my dibs.

The Cooke and the Zeiss, I'm sure, will be worth the most, as they can be converted to PL via adapters, and those are the two I'm more familiar with. Also, for an idea what they're worth, not trying to insult your own smarts either, but have you tried plugging the names of 'em into ebay and seeing what it spits out? Might give you an idea of what some people will be willing to bid on for 'em.

Wow, ya learn somethin' new every day! And thanx for the tidbit on the Cooke and Zeiss, this is exactly the kind of thing I don't know (I hate not knowing what I'm doing, it's like being blind). Now, if I might pick your brain a bit, you mentioned "the" Cooke. Is that because only one of the Cooke's can be converted, and if so, which one? There was only the one Zeiss on my list so that was clear enough.

 

As far as eBay goes: Ya know, I did do that and found that prices ran all over the map for pieces that, due to my frustrating ignorance of all things optical, I simply couldn't tell the difference between. For instance, I saw one Angenieux 35-140mm that sold in the 4 digits, and another that was stagnating at $99 with no bids and only two days to go. I'm sure that there is very good reason for this, but I'm pickled if I know what it is.

 

In any event, you've been very helpful and patient and I really appreciate that in this day and age.

 

~G

I'd be interested in any Arri standard mount junker lenses, say under $50 each -- just to fill the holes in my Model I collection. See what you can get for them elsewhere, then let me know what the leftovers are.

 

 

Thanks --

 

 

 

-- J.S.

Hi John,

 

I will definitely keep you in mind, and thanx for your reply!

 

~G

If you ever wanna get rid of any of those lenses I can give 'em a good home ;) Though not "baller" by any measure, let me know if you'd be willing to sell any of 'em and for how much. I'm always keen on picking up older/unloved/underused/cheaper glass just to have for personal projects/testing.

Hi Adrian,

 

Thanx for your reply. I might well consider your offer if I had the faintest idea what a reasonable number for any of them might be. As I have neither the expertise nor the inclination, I accept that whoever winds up with them will more than likely end up on the better end of the deal than I, but I obviously don't want to be the rube either, and the chances of that are high should I start shooting in the dark. I'm sure you understand. I'll just keep on pluggin' I guess until I either stumble upon the knowledge I seek, or by attrition simply accrue enough research to begin to illuminate my ignorance. If and when I feel that I know enough not to, on one hand, throw out the baby with the bathwater, or on the other insult your intelligence, I will for sure look you up!

 

BTW, what is a "baller?" Again, you must forgive my ignorance I'm afraid.

 

Have a great day! ~G

Thank you very much Tom. Now, who are Paul, Ken, and Ken? Are they denizens of this forum? Please excuse my ignorance.

 

~G

Never mind... I found them. Thanx again! ~G

Thank you very much Tom. Now, who are Paul, Ken, and Ken? Are they denizens of this forum? Please excuse my ignorance.

 

~G

Greetings,

 

I must admit that I am not an industry child, I was a tool and die maker by trade and through a film industry link in the family I've been commissioned many timed to cut custom adapters, FF gears, etc., but that's as close as I got to film (aside from being present at a few shoots here and there) and I know zilch about cine lenses.

 

My link was Pat Shea, a cinematographer and son of documentarian and cinematographer Mike Shea who died in a tragic helicopter crash while compiling a shot list in pre-production for the Meat Loaf rock video "Left In The Dark" in 1995. Pat was a very close family friend who unfortunately succumbed to cancer a few years ago. As a result, I inherited a Haliburton case full of a bunch of cine lenses, mostly primes, and a couple oddball items like an old Cameflex 8v camera motor. In trying to determine what I had I quickly became lost in the quagmire of industry insider lingo and assumed knowledge. From what little I've been able to discern, most are circa '50s/'60s, but what do I know.

 

I'm tempted to get them professionally refurbished/cleaned, but as this seems to be rather expensive I would rather not spend a bunch of money for a bunch of worthless lenses. Any help and/or guidance would be greatly appreciated, even if it's just to shove me toward someone who can.

 

I understand completely that I am an outsider here, so please forgive me if I've stepped on anyone's toes.

 

Thanx in advance, ~G (list follows)

 

((As I have no idea what's important and what's not, I've written descriptions exactly as they appear on the lenses objective rings.)

 

1. P. Angenieux Paris F. 35-140mm 1:3.5 Angenieux – Zoom Type 4 x 35 T1 No. 1213591

a. Tiffen 54.5 M7 Adapter ring Series 7

b. Tiffen Series 7 to 8 Step-Up Ring

c. Tiffen series #8 W.A, Lens Shade

d. Cameflex – Éclair mount

 

2. P. Angenieux Paris F. 14,5 [sic] 1:3.5 Retrofocus Type R62 No. 1036160

a. Cameflex – Éclair mount

 

3. Astro-Berlin No. 53269 C (in red) Pan-Tachar 1:1.8 150mm

a. Cameflex – Éclair mount

 

4. Apochromat KINOPTIK Paris ½ F= 35mm No. 34955

a. Mod .8/32 pitch seamless aluminum focus-follow gear rings

b. Cameflex – Éclair mount

 

5. Heinz Kilfitt Munchen Makro-Kilar A 1:2.8 / 4cm (3 dots= blue, red, yellow) Nr. 254-0818

a. Cameflex – Éclair mount

 

6. Nippon Kogaku Japan No. 350347 Nikkor – N Auto 1:1.4 F=35mm

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7. Kinoptik Paris F 3.5 Focale 300mm No. 11043 Special – Cine

a. Arri standard mount

 

8. Apochromat Kinoptik Paris ½ F=25mm No. 34532

a. Arri standard mount

 

9. Apochromat Kinoptik Paris ½ F=35mm No. 34956

a. Arri standard mount

 

10. Apochromat Kinoptik Paris ½ F=28mm No. 48687

a. Arri standard mount

 

11. Carl Zeiss Nr. 4995462 Distagon 1:2 F=16mm (focal ring O.D. sez...“ARRIFLEX”)

a. Arri standard mount

 

12. Cooke Speed Panchro Lens No. 314704 35mm f/2 ELC

a. Arri standard mount

 

13. Cooke Speed Panchro Ser. III 668363 25mm f/2 T2.2 (second “2” is subscript)

(focal ring O.D. sez…”Lens made in England by Rank Taylor Hobson” followed by “TAYLOR HOBSON 25mm Ser.III Arriflex”)

a. Arri standard mount

 

14. Cooke Speed Panchro Ser. II No. 543010 40mm f/2 T2.3 (the “3” is subscript)

a. Arri standard mount

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15. U.S. NAVY Canon AE-1 ser. 5726882

a. Canon Lens FD 50mm 1:1.4

b. Canon Lens FD 200mm 1:4

 

16. Cameflex Moteur (motor) 8v Service Intermittent (for intermittent use) No. 2003 Type 24