Isaac Eastgate
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That makes sense, for sure different then the other brands.
also as far as i can tell you're wrong about the pressure plates. remjet backing. it prevents scratches to the rear of the film. and before you try bickering over that point too, its quoted from kodak.
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HA! The R&D alone would cost upwards of half a million.
China is only good at making plastic and electronics. So sure, them making the HD camera, no problem. All the precision metal and glass components, they'd struggle to make. Even Arri sourced from other manufacturers who were MORE specialized then they were at making mechanical bits.
Now Japan is a different story, but they're not much cheaper then the US or Europe in todays market. They could easily churn out a brilliant camera, but it would be very expensive.
Unfortunately, cameras are expensive to design and manufacture, especially one's that use precision glass optics, which is what Logmar removed from their $5,000 USD camera. If they HAD a real viewfinder, it would cost a lot more money.
DJI's stuff is designed and manufactured in china. the focus units. tried em? better build quality than cmotion and preston combined. the drones too. so you're wrong about that. R&D is largely a case of carbon copying a 416 and swapping materials out.
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The market is there for a new PROFESSIONAL s16 camera. There are already plenty of options to amateurs with bolex, krasnagorsk, old aaton and arri cameras. If you want to sell you should be looking to make a camera that DOPs and production companies can trust and which works for them and gives them good results. There is a big market for a camera like that.
A new camera would have to outdo the 416 and be:
ultra lightweight (CNC'd titanium, carbon fibre)
fast (75-150fps top end)
modern production ready (an HD video tap with SDIs)
small (could consider 200ft loads but they aren't really available, but still wanting it to be at least as small as an aaton)
reliable (nanometer accurate pressure plate, pin registration, crystal sync, with self diagnostic sensors for loop, power, tension, sync, etc.)
and capable of powering accessories inc motors, monitors, etc.
you'd have to export R&D to china, because this project is really about miniaturising the mechanics with the latest brushless micro motor technology, and combining it with a seamless ultra lightweight fully CNC'd design.
if you can do all that for 2 or 3k USD you'll sell. hint: china.
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Anyone have any leads, pref in europe/UK?
Looking to spend less than 3000GBP exvat, 2 or 3 perf.
Also any advice, information or experience on the 235 platform is appreciated.
Many thanks
Isaac
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yeah, only double the price ES broadcast were asking for boxed lenses :(
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kalle did you buy the 12 and 14 from ES ? :angry:
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FYI, im looking for a 12 or 14!
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Now for sale on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/131607156306?
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email me on isaac.eastgate@gmail.com or PM here. all offers considered.
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Bought from a private owner 3 weeks ago and selling now that i realise i really only really need a single axis unit, and could do without the complexity and power requirements of a 3 axis system.
The kit works perfectly although i found it sluggish when run off a 12V source. It really needs at least 14V to perform as it should. It seems otherwise fine, the motors are fairly powerful (enough for most cine lenses, i used it with mk1 superspeeds and a canon zoom), ambidextrous and reversible. The caps for the zoom and iris slider on the control unit are missing. The hard stops are not shown but are included. One of the magnetic follow focus rings is shown marked up but i will clean them all using white spirit.
Please look on youtube (search cinegears multi axis) for more info. The control unit has very nice LEDs lighting up the sliders and the focus indicator. It can record 4 presets for all 3 channels and run 6 motors in 3 pairs for 3D setup.
RRP is £3180 inc VAT, i would like to sell this for £1800
Will post worldwide.
Kit includes:
- 3x lens motors with 19mm clamps
- 3x lemo cables receiver->motor
- receiver unit with 19mm clamp and antenna
- 3x 15mm > 19mm step-rings
- power cable for receiver unit (currently lemo 6 to lemo 2, but i can have a cable made for any common power source including d-tap, 4-xlr etc.)
- remote control unit
- 3x magnetic follow focus rings
- USB cable used to charge RCU
- 3x 1.0 mod gears
- 3x 0.8 mod gears
- 3x 0.6 mod gears
- 3x 0.5 mod gears
- supplied in peli-style case
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its also making a point, especially if you arent going to add any detailed photos, of the quality of your arri bayonet to PL adaptors.
They appear to be the cheap aluminium screw-held rings rather than locking, clamped or semi-permanent type.
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I have a client in the middle east that is selling a Canon 17-63mm. Just thought i would throw that out there. If your interested i can can send price and pics.
Assume you mean 7-63? Would be very interested to know a price on that.
If i bought it my 8-64 would become available for a good price.
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Try Herman at camera market in Amsterdam.
Not the greatest value but he has the lenses you are looking for and will ship to Belgium.
xxxxxx
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Really great deal, thanks for offering it on here Colin.
If anyone knows of reasonably priced mags, or if you yourself could add a couple to the package, then we can enter a bidding war :)
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Describe away...
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Thanks Zach, the 8-64 is not for sale, just considering trading up
xxx
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not mine, just saw this on ebay, the seller knows very very little about the equipment and i advised her to have it checked and serviced if necessary.
really great comprehensive kit in great nick, only potential gripe is the aaton mount, although theres a bayonet adapter in there,
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I have an 8-64 (grey model) i would trade with you and throw in some extra cash, its a great lightweight lens but i guess it depends what you're looking for.
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Great package. Love the leopard :D
If you do end up splitting things off, i'll buy your long rods in a heartbeat.
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I guess this is a geographical thing or a preemption more than anything. Here in the UK the industry is at its hottest. Stocks fresh and used available by the tens of thousands of feet... kodak or fuji. Dev and scanning is cheaper, better and faster than its ever been. I understand in other parts of the world people are not so lucky. But to me a cost of 3000 is just utterly insane, regardless of it being a MOS camera. We're talking about essentially the pinnacle of image capture (disregarding imaxy formats), and at 150fps no less. No brainer. If only my bank account hadnt just been totally scooped getting into some basic steadicam gear. I may still make the switch some time next year.
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why are these cameras so cheap at the moment? this makes no sense.
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no need, i'm putting the xtera on a diet tomorrow!
Super 16mm
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AND japan hasnt made a decent camera since the msm9802 while china is home to half the manufacturing facilities of olympus, panasonic, RED, sony, nikon, leica, the kinemax, as well as a huge number of smartphone optic manufactures, which brings me to my next point: plastic elements.
the iphone camera costs 7 dollars and massively outperforms all our cinema glass when you take into account the scale of the thing. consider how easy it is to design a sharp MF lens and how hard it is to design a sharp s16 lens. viewfinder solved.
is there anything youve said that i havent utterly junked?